Mission Editor v1.0a beta1

[scottlu]

Mission Editor v1.0a beta 1 is available:

http://www.warfareincorporated.com/downloads/warfare-me-1.0a.zip

With this release it is possible to author multiplayer maps. To make a multiplayer map, in Level Properties, change the MinPlayers to 2 and above. Change MaxPlayers to the maximum number of players, up to 4.

For each human participant, make sure the Intelligence is Human (found in Side Properties).

In the game, multiplayer maps show up in the multiplayer map list, not in the Challenge Mission list.

Note that while most trigger actions work, ecom trigger actions don't work while multiplayer. This is so the game doesn't pause for one player while continuing for another.

Please use this thread for problem reports and bugs!

[crakerz]

Scott, has the "set pvar" bug been fixed in this one?

[scottlu]

Fixing this would mean levels that use this action would be WI v1.2 specific, an end-user and support headache. It'll go on the "things we want to fix but that will be incompatible with old versions of WI" list.

[crakerz]

Gotcha.

[knelson]

Scott,

Is there any plans to implement the counter feature? Currently you can modify the counter but there is no corresponding action.

I would like to see this feature install because it will give the mission creator a chance to create more dynamic missions.

Keith

[goblin_merchant]

Some triggers, if implemented, could effect the history of Warfare Inc. !!!

Needed Triggers
A "kill" trigger. Kills a unit instantly
Set/add/subtract HP to _ (either percent or just number)
Detect Health of a unit
changing allowed units in game
center location on unit (a location follows a unit where it moves)

Some good variables
I collected some of these from the forum
$kill
$losses
$totalmined
$totalspent

A unit editor would be awesome! Graphic editor, sound editor... all that could effect Warfare's replayability!

Of course, most of this is just wishful thinking ... or is it?

[ajcross]

[quote="goblin_merchant"]Needed Triggers
A "kill" trigger. Kills a unit instantly
Set/add/subtract HP to _ (either percent or just number)
Detect Health of a unit
[/quote]

I rewrote these as possible trigger statements.

Trigger Condition
Health of unit type of 'side' in 'area': 'At Least/Exactly/At Most' 'quantity' percent

Trigger Action
Health of 'unit type' of 'side' in 'area': 'Set/Add/Subtract' 'quantity' percent

I think that these two have plenty of possibilities.

Andy Cross

[SoLan]

goblin_merchant wrote:

changing allowed units in game

Can't you do this already with the "Set Allowed Units" trigger action? I haven't tested this, but it doesn't say anywhere that I can find that it can not be used in game.

[goblin_merchant]

SoLan, perhaps my wording wasn't good. I meant DURING the game. As it is running.

[SoLan]

goblin_merchant wrote:

SoLan, perhaps my wording wasn't good. I meant DURING the game. As it is running.

Either we are talking about entirely different things here, or your (or maybe my) wording still isn't good. Or I may just be slow.

Are we talking about changing what units the player is allowed to build? Like if the player can build a Hydra or not? If we are, then it is possible to change that during the game - at least in a single player game. I did a small test here, and was able to change the allowed units depending on whether an area contained a certain unit or not.

[Verdagon]

Goblin this is possible. They did it in the one of the two missions that come with the editor. you know, the sample ones.

[crakerz]

You can change the allowed units at any time during a game.

Counter probably won't be implemented based on a previous thread Scott posted to. However, you really don't need it. The pvars can already be used as a counter. For example, in SWAK, three pvars named GameSeconds, GameMinutes, and GameHours are used to show a custom Gametime Clock in the upper right corner. If you like, I can give examples of how to use pvars as counters.

As for killing a specific unit, that is probably asking a lot. You would have to have some way of identifying each and every unit. If you create units as groups, you can control the starting health. It is also possible to limit the quantity of units of a specific type. And, you can also cause units to commit suicide.

As for following a specific unit as it moves, there is a way to do that, but it is very trigger intensive, and requires that there is only one of that side's unit. Again, if you insist, I can give examples.

One other thing to keep in mind when wanting to add things: spiffcode wants to maintain some downward compatibility (see Scott's post a few up that answers my question about the set pvar bug).

[knelson]

Please provide me with some examples. I will be implementing some of the features in my next mission.

[goblin_merchant]

You guys forgot to specify a limit. Only 16 Every NN seconds triggers are allowed.

[crakerz]

goblin_merchant wrote:

You guys forgot to specify a limit. Only 16 Every NN seconds triggers are allowed.

Huh? Not sure what you mean. Preserved triggers are eval'd twice a second, but I don't know about a limit to how many are eval'd

[crakerz]

knelson wrote:

Please provide me with some examples. I will be implementing some of the features in my next mission.

Pvar as a counter:

CONDITIONS:
-Comment: Game Seconds
-Every 1 seconds
ACTIONS:
-Modify persistant variable 'GS': Add 1
-Preserve trigger

CONDITIONS:
-Comment: Game Minutes
-Persistant variable 'GS' is Exactly 59
ACTIONS:
-Modify persistant variable 'GS': Subtract 59
-Modify persistant variable 'GM': Add 1
-Preserve trigger

CONDITIONS:
-Comment: Game Hours
-Persistant variable 'GM' is Exactly 59
ACTIONS:
-Modify persistant variable 'GM': Subtract 59
-Modify persistant variable 'GH': Add 1
-Preserve trigger

As for locating a unit, that is very intensive. Basically, you create an X-Y grid of overlapping areas. You must then test each area for the unit, and then modify a pvar to keep track. You can then cause the game to recenter over the unit.

Hope this helps.

[goblin_merchant]

What I meant was that only 16 Every NN seconds conditions are allowed.

[Paul]

scottlu wrote:

Mission Editor v1.0a beta 1 is available:

http://www.spiffcode.com/beta/me-1.0a.zip

With this release it is possible to author multiplayer maps. To make a multiplayer map, in Level Properties, change the MinPlayers to 2 and above. Change MaxPlayers to the maximum number of players, up to 4.

For each human participant, make sure the Intelligence is Human (found in Side Properties).

In the game, multiplayer maps show up in the multiplayer map list, not in the Challenge Mission list.

Note that while most trigger actions work, ecom trigger actions don't work while multiplayer. This is so the game doesn't pause for one player while continuing for another.

Please use this thread for problem reports and bugs!

I get an error: "Out of memory!" when i try to create a game on my ppc... It lets me host the other gmes, but not mine, also, mine has a name, but it calls it <untitled> or something... HELP!

[Verdagon]

Paul wrote:

scottlu wrote:

Mission Editor v1.0a beta 1 is available:

http://www.spiffcode.com/beta/me-1.0a.zip

With this release it is possible to author multiplayer maps. To make a multiplayer map, in Level Properties, change the MinPlayers to 2 and above. Change MaxPlayers to the maximum number of players, up to 4.

For each human participant, make sure the Intelligence is Human (found in Side Properties).

In the game, multiplayer maps show up in the multiplayer map list, not in the Challenge Mission list.

Note that while most trigger actions work, ecom trigger actions don't work while multiplayer. This is so the game doesn't pause for one player while continuing for another.

Please use this thread for problem reports and bugs!

I get an error: "Out of memory!" when i try to create a game on my ppc... It lets me host the other gmes, but not mine, also, mine has a name, but it calls it <untitled> or something... HELP!

I had this error a while ago. It happened when I stacked about 500 galaxites on top of eachother. Try removing a hundred or so units or something lol.

[GreenDefender]

Hi!!
I'm not english so I cant speak english very well.
Now.How can I play on the map what I make ??? Pls write back! THANKS!

(I'm Hungarian)
GreenDefender

[Verdagon]

In the mission editor, open up your map. Go to File -> Export Mission Pack, and it will make a .pdb for you. Install this to your PDA:
If you have a palm, just put it in the main memory.
If you have a pocket pc, put it in the same directory as warfare.
Once this is done, you can play it:
If it's a single player mission, it will be in the challenge missions menu.
If it's a multiplayer mission, it will be in the list of multiplayer maps.

Hope this helps.

[ringrover]

is there any chance of the editor being put in the mac os?

[scottlu]

Yes, it's on my list of things to do. It needs Mac support!

[Verdagon]

Huzzah for mac support! Very exciting. I'll be able to make levels!

[SonOfaWalnut]

hey
gonna bring back this hecka old post
how do u apply it? i wanna make it so i can put created maps onto my WI on my touch
kinda new to this.. so any help would be appreciated

[SonOfaWalnut]

Verdagon wrote:

In the mission editor, open up your map. Go to File -> Export Mission Pack, and it will make a .pdb for you. Install this to your PDA:
If you have a palm, just put it in the main memory.
If you have a pocket pc, put it in the same directory as warfare.
Once this is done, you can play it:
If it's a single player mission, it will be in the challenge missions menu.
If it's a multiplayer mission, it will be in the list of multiplayer maps.

Hope this helps.

alrite, uhm, i have WI on my itouch, and so i dunno if the pocket pc method applies to itouch.. also, when i try exporting it, i click save, but nothing happens.

[Jerrythemouse]

I've downloaded the file and I click on 1 thing and it says that it found an error and needs to shut down, what do i do?!?!?!?

[dlamet]

Mac support ho!

[Joshuaiscool]

All this stuff is helpful but I wanted a way to have lots of counters going at the SAME time. This is to help an aspect of my new mission to make a type of mining rock that lasted longer than normal but will eventully run out. I created them in a way the editor would allow since this game suffers from low mineral concertration. However they last forever since I don't know how to have a counter as a condition and a trigger. We need a new mission editor and a new version of the program as well to be compatible. Can someone help find a way around this.

[Bart Owns U]

hi scott,
can you please PM me or post a new message thing on how i'm meant to run this thing? ive managed to download it but i cant seem to grasp what im supposed to be doing and how.

Cheers,
Bart

[scottlu]

Hi Bart!

Good to see your post. We're working on an official FAQ. For the time being, check out the maps that are included with the mission editor, especially check out the triggers.

Read this FAQ:

http://www.warfareincorporated.com/xyzzy/viewtopic.php?t=652

Then ask questions on this forum.

You can get MP map samples here:

http://www.warfareincorporated.com/xyzzy/files/M_02.ld
http://www.warfareincorporated.com/xyzzy/files/M_15.ld

Load them up in the editor and check them out. These are 2 maps that come with the game.

Scott

[Bart Owns U]

GREAT!
thanks a lot scottlu

[Iceon16]

Scootlu, I just wanted to know if just "anyone" can make a map, or if you have to be a moderator to. I new to this and everything so I wanted to ask before just going out there and making a map.

[N104]

If you don't mind me answering your question ice, anyone can make a map (as far as I know).

[Yoshiya]

I make maps and im a nobody

[ConMan-A]

I see you can download the map editor on a PC, but can I be done on an iPad?

[Colt]

ConMan-A wrote:

I see you can download the map editor on a PC, but can I be done on an iPad?

The mission editor is for a PC or Mac only (but more importantly PC). Sorry

[N104]

Colt wrote:

The mission editor is for a PC or Mac only

You can get it on mac? I thought it only worked on PC.

[galm]

If you have bootcamp i think u can.

[N104]

galm wrote:

If you have bootcamp i think u can.

Sweet, I have a friend who wants the mission editor but uses mac.