Why I Think WI is Dieing and how to Stop it

[N104]

WI will die when most players give up on it.
I’m serious, the reason why the WI community is dead and the game is close to dieing (with 5 players on at the max during the day and 10 max at night) is because most players have given up.

Most players will give up on WI when they believe it’s dead.
Most players have already decided the game is dead, so they give up. Because they have given up, the game is dieing.

We are the players, and we hold WI’s future.
Alright guys, stop blaming WI going downhill on Scottlu and Spiffcode Inc. People keep saying how updating WI, open sourcing it, and porting it to other platforms will save the game and complaining Scott does nothing (even though Scott doesn’t appear to be doing much, please remember he still pays the bills to keep WI running). I admit, those things will help, but its not the only way! We players can’t do anything to get the game updated, open sourced, or ported to other platforms, but we can control the average player count on the game server and how active the community is! We can do that by being on the game, posting, putting effort into WI expecting to get nothing from it, doing things for WI even if they look in vain, and getting our butts off other games! I know you are all busy, but I’ve noticed many of you have time for other games but not WI…

We can choose to save WI, or choose let it die.
That’s true, to a degree. We can’t choose to keep WI running if Scott were to stop paying the bills, but what I mean, is that when a player says, “WI is gonna die” and does nothing to prevent it, that player just made what they said more likely to happen. But, if a player says, “WI is gonna die”, and attempts to do something about it, and continues trying to do something no matter what happens, they have just helped WI keep going a little longer.

We need to start doing things! The more people that forget about WI’s inactivity, and give to the community no matter the game’s state, the more active the game will actually become. So come on guys, help to save the game! You can do it by forgetting that you have ‘given up’ on WI, by forgetting the game is almost dead, not thinking nothing you can do will help WI, and actually getting out and doing something! If anyone want's suggestions on what to do to help WI, I have a nice long list of things that I believe will help WI, and that can be done by mostly by players (some may need admins). I've been attempting to do them and will continue attempting to do, until they happen, someone bring up a good reason why one or more of the ideas shouldn't be done, or unti the game is dead and everyone has given up (but the game won't die if you help) PM me (or contact me any way) if you'd like to see the list and help out with some of it.
You can start by helping to make the forums more active and reply to this topic with your thoughts and opinions!!

WI will die when most players give up on it. Most players will give up on WI when they believe it’s dead. We are the players, and we hold WI’s future. We can choose to save WI, or let it die. As a WI member, what do you choose…

Please remember that this whole post is only my opinion. Whether you agree or disagree is up to you.

[Nazmessup]

WI is a great game and also a great place to be i also belive that we should do our best to save WI for a free game i is one of the best games i've ever played in my days of apps i wish there was more people that thought this way.

[sidekick]

Warfare incoporated Is the best app in the world. Why is this app not having 30 people on each night. Its because people gave up on warfare incorporated. I know that a lot of players are not very active but please try to be on at a certain date that I will post later to show how many people are out there.

[N104]

Instead of just one date, everyone could try to get on at the same time once a week. See how many players we can get per week and try to break last week's record

sidekick wrote:

Why is this app not having 30 people on each night.

We should have 30 in the slow times not the busy times.

sidekick wrote:

ts because people gave up on warfare incorporated.

Correct! And we need to change that!

sidekick wrote:

I know that a lot of players are not very active

We need to get them active and get new players! I know some players are inactive because of school and work, which is okay, but it greatly annoys me when players are inactive because of 'better' games.

[Chris123]

As u all know i played this game a long time if i wanted it to die i wouldve quit long ago so im with u guys

[xXJamesXx]

N104!!! wrote:

Remember James: WI will die, when everyone gives up on it. Everyone will give up on WI, when they believe it dead. We are the players. We hold WI's future. We can control what happens! Whether WI dies, or continues!

This Is What N104 Had Told Me During our little chat on iMessage. I totally agree with him that WI is dying because of the fact the players arent as active. Its kinda like the domino effect. As well as most people complaining about how WI is on its last legs but arent doing much to save it, and all you have to do is come on everyonce in awhile not every four years going "oh hey umm remeber me the guy that quit? Yeah I just came by to say hi. Bye Now" *leaves chatroom* Whats the point of that really somebody help me out here. If you quit WI just like that honestly unless you were a really nice person, I dont want to see your name 'round these parts. So instead of complaining why dont we do something about it, like N said, we're the players we have the power LETS MAKE A CHANGE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!

[sidekick]

If you are reading this get on at 7:30 pm Friday 9/13/13
I hope to see you there!

[N104]

sidekick wrote:

If you are reading this get on at 7:30 pm Friday 9/13/13
I hope to see you there!

What timezone?

[N104]

xXJamesXx wrote:

every four years going "oh hey umm remeber me the guy that quit? Yeah I just came by to say hi. Bye Now" *leaves chatroom* Whats the point of that really somebody help me out here.

Lol those people annoy me. There is no point, they just remember WI, come in, say hi, see new people and don't see anyone they remember, and then they forget WI for another four years.

[slimjimninja]

Idea: find another programmer who could make updates to the game, with Scott's permission.

[N104]

slimjimninja wrote:

Idea: find another programmer who could make updates to the game, with Scott's permission.

Hard to find someone willing to do it.

[Mini Rambo]

Hey N104, I ain't been on recently because I play so many sports and have school to deal with. Warfare is a great RTS game, but the Total War series. This is still an amazing game and hope to see more players but can't see how this problem will be solved unless more players come along.

[N104]

Mini Rambo wrote:

but can't see how this problem will be solved unless more players come along.

That's somewhat true. We need to put the word about WI out in the world.

[jwy02]

Just gave this app a shoutout for my followers

[N104]

jwy02 wrote:

Just gave this app a shoutout for my followers

Instagram followers? Sweet! Everyone go follow jwy's example

[N104]

Sad thing guys. I just had a player tell me they are leaving WI for good because there's not enough registered players playing. That's the type of people killing this game

[xXJamesXx]

Will get peps to play using twitter or youtube soon. I just need a screen recoreder that doesnt flipping lag and can save videos to meh camera roll!!!
>:(

[N104]

xXJamesXx wrote:

Will get peps to play using twitter or youtube soon.

I wish there was an Official Warfare Incorporated Twitter page, Official Warfare Incorporated Facebook page, Official Warfare Incorporated Youtube page, Official Warfare Incorporated Instagram, and official pages for other social networking. The only way a page can be official is if Scottlu gave the go ahead for it and appointed someone (if not himself) to run it.
I've asked scott about social network pages for WI but he never replied about it.

xXJamesXx wrote:

I just need a screen recoreder that doesnt flipping lag and can save videos to meh camera roll!!!
>:(

I can tell you how to get one that doesn't require jailbreak. It may be kinda unstable though and glitchy.

[xXJamesXx]

N104!!! wrote:

I can tell you how to get one that doesn't require jailbreak. It may be kinda unstable though and glitchy.

If its that emu4 thing one it doesnt work but if its a different one im all ears.
If Scottlu gave the go for official page like that Id be more than happy to do a twiiter one. Id need a little help intially getting started but I can handle the rest really. Goong to have to check forums everyday to stay up to date though.

[N104]

xXJamesXx wrote:

If its that emu4 thing one it doesnt work but if its a different one im all ears.

Lol no emu4 stuff. I'll send you an iMessage with details.

xXJamesXx wrote:

Goong to have to check forums everyday to stay up to date though.

You need to check the forums every day whether or not scott goes for social networking pages for wi

[xXJamesXx]

Yes yes all to true.

[galm]

Well if its being open sources don't u think it cud solve that problem?

[N104]

Not really galm. It will help, but open source won't even affect the players until someone develops the game further.

[xXJamesXx]

An open source would bring more players, but if there is no update of some sort they to will start leaving and we will be put in the same position as now.

[galm]

But how would social media help that much? I feel like we need something to give the game a boost first, then promotiong will help it grow.

[N104]

Wi was popular in 2009 and 2010. The gameplay hasn't changed since then. If it was popular then, why would it need to change so it can be popular now? An boost would be very nice though.

[doom]

Just gonna put this out there.

this wont work.

And galms right, one push is the best way, it wont work, but you can try.

The game was popular in 2009/10 because it was one of the best RTS games around, and we, the older community played our hearts out of this game, but we died off, as we got bored because the game stayed the same.

If humans didnt evolve and change, we woulden't be so successful now.

[N104]

doom wrote:

Just gonna put this out there.

this wont work.

Okay.

doom wrote:

And galms right, one push is the best way,

Okay.

doom wrote:

but we died off, as we got bored because the game stayed the same.

Why didn't new players come?

[sidekick]

Face it this game is the same. It's like call of duty if call of duty doesn't change it will be horrible. This game hasn't changed in a long time it's about time for a change

[N104]

Does anyone have 'change' ideas that can be done by without Scott having to spend much time?

[sidekick]

Veterans have to play to teach the recruits and sence this game hasn't evolved no veterans play

[N104]

Many of the veteran players are now in college and too busy to come back even if something peeked their interest enough to choose to come back.

[galm]

Eh not true, im rly busy but i believe me nate law and trine r all high school.
I could be wrong though, actually law isnt but whatever.

[LawrenceA]

Many of us learnt multiplayer strategies our own, I'm sure that the new players will be able to as well. If they don't... that just means more points for any active experienced player I guess!

[N104]

galm wrote:

Eh not true, im rly busy but i believe me nate law and trine r all high school.

They are busy wherever they are though.

galm wrote:

I could be wrong though, actually law isnt but whatever.

Law isn't in high school lol.

LawrenceA wrote:

Many of us learnt multiplayer strategies our own

I learned how to play without anyone really teaching me. I had a few players show me a good strategy to one or two maps, but thats about all.

LawrenceA wrote:

I'm sure that the new players will be able to as well.

It will just take them time. A lot of times new players VS older players and the older players crush them. Then the new player gets discouraged and quits the game. We old players need to not go as hard on new players. If your scared, just keep an army in the fog lol.

LawrenceA wrote:

If they don't... that just means more points for any active experienced player I guess!

If you can find one thats registered and not anon.

[Duc Van Java]

nice speech N104, i wonder how u get time to make all this post!!are you a paranoid or something?
well all i can say is stand up go burn ur butt and make a life!!
WI can only be save by scottlu, nobody else.. niether mod admins or what so ever they call to thier selves..hes paying bills but hes not doing anything, if hes not doing anything why would you care?
BTW, have played this game for 3 yrs and about this stuff saving WI? its not gonna happen, "hope it wil" but dont spect to much..

[N104]

Duc Van Java wrote:

nice speech N104,

Thank you.

Duc Van Java wrote:

i wonder how u get time to make all this post!!

I don't spend my time on other games lol.

Duc Van Java wrote:

are you a paranoid or something?

No.

Duc Van Java wrote:

well all i can say is stand up go burn ur butt and make a life!!

I already have a life.

Duc Van Java wrote:

WI can only be save by scottlu, nobody else..

It depends what you mean by 'save'. It would be easiest for scott to save wi, but I think it would be possible another way(s) (they'd just by much harder).

Duc Van Java wrote:

hes paying bills but hes not doing anything,

He hasn't forgotten about wi. He's busy with life and doesn't have much time for wi. But he hasn't forgotten.

Duc Van Java wrote:

if hes not doing anything why would you care?

Somebody has to.

Duc Van Java wrote:

BTW, have played this game for 3 yrs and about this stuff saving WI? its not gonna happen, "hope it wil" but dont spect to much..

It won't happen if you put all the work on scott, get mad when he doesn't do anything, and then give up. A few quotes up you mentioned that scott isn't doing anything, but you aren't doing (or even trying) anything either.

[trineroks]

galm wrote:

Eh not true, im rly busy but i believe me nate law and trine r all high school.
I could be wrong though, actually law isnt but whatever.

I've been in college since last year.

[Redion]

Warfare incorporated is a great game but:
Android devices came out and a lot of people (including my self) switched to various types of hardware that is still ran by Android operating system. More touch screen devices came out with better GPU and CPU power and are able to run much prettier graphics. Now WI looks good with its own pixalated graphics (just like mine craft that is really popular) but little face lift on thos high resolution screens would be nice to have. But how can we do that? Well we need access! Access to the graphics, access to the code, access to the official social media pages, feeds, channels. We need variaty of choice, whether it is windows mobile, palm is, iOS, winp7, windows pc, Linux, mac os or any other operating system that is available to man kind. Combine facelift with multiplatform play capability and good social media interaction and we have on our hands a new game brewing which will bring any platforms that users are playing on into a 1 server.

We can't say that there are no people who are interested in taking over the game dev and social media, I am for one who would be happy to bring the game back to life .
Spiff code please, use it or pass all of this to some one who has resources and most importantly will to keep working on this great game!

Amen!

[N104]

Redion wrote:

Access to the graphics,

You can unpack the graphics and sound from the htdata832.pdb files. But it's in a format that isn't really readable.

Redion wrote:

access to the code,

Scott has taled about making WI open source since at least 2011. He recently told me he's still planning on it. Who knows when it will happen though.

Redion wrote:

Access to the official social media pages, feeds, channels.

We can't get access to something that doesn't exist. WI doesn't have official social media pages or feeds or channels (at least not that I know of).

Redion wrote:

We need variaty of choice, whether it is windows mobile, palm is, iOS, winp7, windows pc, Linux, mac os or any other operating system that is available to man kind. Combine facelift with multiplatform play capability and good social media interaction and we have on our hands a new game brewing which will bring any platforms that users are playing on into a 1 server.

That would require a lot of programming which scott can't do. So it needs to first be open sourced. After WI is open sourced, we'll still need programmers.

Redion wrote:

We can't say that there are no people who are interested in taking over the game dev and social media,

I believe theres people interested.

Redion wrote:

Spiff code please, use it or pass all of this to some one who has resources and most importantly will to keep working on this great game!

Agreed.

[Duc Van Java]

JESUS!!!
how u do this replys...
im worried about you!!

[N104]

Duc Van Java wrote:

im worried about you!!

no need to be worried.

[lordzeus97]

I'm just a newbie,but this game's now part of my life,if only scott and spiffcode inc would port it to android and other platforms

[N104]

lordzeus97 wrote:

I'm just a newbie,but this game's now part of my life,if only scott and spiffcode inc would port it to android and other platforms

The game has been open sourced so a programmer could port it to droid.