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Why can I not gain points?
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STUDmuffin
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Joined: 04 May 2012
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:43 pm  Post subject: Why can I not gain points?

Scott,

I know u have answered this question before but under the current circumstances, need to have you explain why it is that I can not gain a single point after having won multiple matches again 3 registered players at various times.

It is extremely unfair that l can't even get 1 point while my opponents lose more than 1 point. At the same time, if I lose I lose points. It's very disheartening to play and not be rewarded for your efforts.

What is the point of trying to maintain ones position on the leaderboards when one knows that ones effort is in vain. I use to play more on my Studmuffin account but since I won't even receive any points I only play with that account once a week so I don't lose 20 points from inactivity.

I ask you to please fix this problem. Many players have left the game because of this. Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,
STUDmuffin
wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told


Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Posts: 2221
Location: birth place of, TEXAS
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:14 pm  

A problem is that your playing low accounts maybe swapping the people with higher ratings so you can take theirs Points (stop playing low rating accounts)
aaronpg97a
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Location: Ca
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:37 pm  

wonderer wrote:
A problem is that your playing low accounts maybe swapping the people with higher ratings so you can take theirs Points (stop playing low rating accounts)


Stop playing 3v1 maps against players that are low . If you do a 1-1 with somoe in top 25 u should get a couple points and which players have left do to that problem?
STUDmuffin
Developing Poster


Joined: 04 May 2012
Posts: 16
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:20 pm  

Nate,

Please lock this discussion. This is addressed to Scott. I don't care to hear from the peanut gallery.


Btw, I don't switch/swap account players when I'm playing. Others might do it but I don't swap/switch account players. And furthermore, I will play whatever map I want. Just look at the leaderboard 4 who has left and this has been expressed by many already so I'm not gonna get into.

The point was why I can't gain 1 point when I win and why my opponents (acct players) still lose points.

That is all.

STUDmuffin
aaronpg97a
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Joined: 21 Dec 2011
Posts: 388
Location: Ca
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:42 pm  

Just Trying to help but here's a example of why I'm talking about

http://game.warfareincorporated.com/stats/gamedetail?g=k32-4f75d016-0001f526&p=DIMENTI0
scottlu
WI Founder


Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Posts: 1773
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:56 pm  

You need to win against players that are rated close to you, or greater than you, to get points.
wonderer
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Posts: 2221
Location: birth place of, TEXAS
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:07 pm  

Why don't you want to hear what we have to say if you wanted to talk with scottlu only you could always messages him or message and admin or mod cause I'm sure everyone who has reached the number one spot has complained about their rating not changing after playing low ranked players. Your the peanut for not searching for your answer it's been posted many many times.

Maybe a topic should be locked and made as stick so every time a high ranked player complain their not getting points we can just give them a link?
sam
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:13 pm  

wonderer wrote:
Why don't you want to hear what we have to say if you wanted to talk with scottlu only you could always messages him or message and admin or mod cause I'm sure everyone who has reached the number one spot has complained about their rating not changing after playing low ranked players. Your the peanut for not searching for your answer it's been posted many many times.

Maybe a topic should be locked and made as stick so every time a high ranked player complain their not getting points we can just give them a link?



That's a good idea N@TE should make this topic a sticky so players can understand why they don't earn points against lower ranked players
wonderer
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Location: birth place of, TEXAS
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:15 pm  

This topic has a crappy tittle it should be more like "read before you speak"
Da Dealer
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Location: Canton, Ohio
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:08 pm  

The fact that you've ranked up to this point, your maps that you use vsing lowwwww people and only beating 1 person at a time, it's gonna start to be impossible, even at 2230 in a 1v1 vs a 1500 you will gain pts
N@TE
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Location: Colorado
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:47 pm  Post subject: Topic stickied, renamed

Upon request, this topic has been stickied and renamed from "Scott Lu please answer why" to "Why can I not gain points?"

To clearly answer your question, as Scott and many others have said, it's because you're playing maps where the points must be split amongst three people (3 vs. 1), and you are one of the three people. At first, I didn't have an answer for you because I mistakingly thought that you were the one in these 3 vs. 1 matches. Then I recalled that you are one of the three, and it all made sense.

Think about it. If a player with 1500 points loses and has to spread their points amongst three people, you know from the start that each person isn't going to gain much (but the winner is going to lose a lot). Now, let's say that two of those three winners have a rating a little below 1500 rating, but the third has a rating over 2000. Because the player with a rating of over 2000 has a very likely chance of winning, they're not going to gain many points. However, the two players slightly below 1500 will gain many points because they had less of a probability of winning, at least according to the points.

Now, let's put this in reverse and say the one in the 1 vs. 3 wins. All of the ratings are the same: the one has around 1500 points (perhaps a little above); two out of the three losers are a little below 1500, and the third loser is above 2000. Because it's a 3 vs. 1, now the three people have to split the earnings for the winner. Even though two out of the three losers are slightly below 1500, the player with a rating over 2000 completely overshadows that. Thus, overall, the one in the 3 vs. 1 was unlikely to win, not just because it was a 3 vs. 1, but also because a player that has a rating over 500 points more than the winner lost. Therefore, who is going to lose the most points? The player with over 2000 points! That player (over-2000-points dude) was supposed to be the deciding factor, but wasn't!

I hope that helps answer your question. I think this is about the most times I've ever used bold in one post. :lol:
KissFromARose
Very Active User


Joined: 11 Dec 2011
Posts: 116
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:59 am  

Hey Stud, I think no answer is right for you (and for me too :lol: ). Because I had post a lot request about the rule of point, but no help.

I only can tell you that rule of point is the most stupid in this game.

Done, dude.
sidekick
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Joined: 24 Jun 2010
Posts: 91
 Post Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:07 pm  

first off why would you want to play people at 1500? You should play people around your rating so if you lose you lose less points, and if you win you gain more points than what you get for playing against players 500 points below you. Of course your chances of winning will be lower but your rating will go up higher than what you will lose. Also if you only play players at 1500 and you can't beat players at 2000 then you shouldn't be at the top25.
aerykhorita01
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:30 pm  

it could be the battle took.less than 3 mins