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Cat and Mouse Poll
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trineroks
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Location: Southern Cali (UCLA)
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:47 am  Post subject: Cat and Mouse Poll

I'm posting this poll to see what the community feels about my Cat and Mouse maps. Cat and Mouse was one of the first maps I've created in Warfare Incorporated (I think it's about 2 years old now) and never has it come across any trouble than it has just recently, when certain players used the map as a source of pointfarming. I've already removed Cat and Mouse CLASSIC & REDUX, but Cat and Mouse Desert is still up.

Should I remove Cat and Mouse Desert for the time being as well, or does the community want the map still up?

Reply with "remove" or "keep". Once again, thanks for your input.
Da Dealer
Chat Mod Emeritus


Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Posts: 514
Location: Canton, Ohio
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:16 am  

Remove, you know my opinion and it's a fun map but there's just a few idiots exploiting it sorry.
KissFromARose
Very Active User


Joined: 11 Dec 2011
Posts: 116
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:54 am  

All should be remove, dude!

1. http://www.warfareincorporated.com/xyzzy/viewtopic.php?t=7795

2. http://www.warfareincorporated.com/xyzzy/viewtopic.php?t=7796

Hope your next maps more kill and fun!
wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told


Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Posts: 2221
Location: birth place of, TEXAS
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:18 pm  

Keep it since it's not pumping.
It's a good tool for higher clans to point at cretin players and say we don't allow thoses types players in our clan.
(that'swhatIwoulddo)
slimjimninja
Veteran Member


Joined: 30 Mar 2010
Posts: 1226
Location: away
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:36 pm  

I say keep it because I like Cat and Mouse cuz it's fun and I play it for fun. The people abusing it should be removed from the leaderboard.
aaronpg97a
Mega-Poster


Joined: 21 Dec 2011
Posts: 388
Location: Ca
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:52 pm  

The map used to be fun to play with friends now it's turned into a score gathering game
Da Dealer
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Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Posts: 514
Location: Canton, Ohio
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:42 am  

slim they havent broken a rule so we cant remove them, its more the map breaking the rule
The Timinator
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Joined: 11 Dec 2011
Posts: 67
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:42 am  

Sure it's not pumping and the map is fun for recreational use, but it gets REALLY ANNOYING when people use it for points only (and not to mention never play cyan). So I vote to get rid if it. Thanks.

The Timinator
N104
Administrator


Joined: 24 May 2012
Posts: 1382
Location: Pennsylvania
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:10 am  

I vote, remove. It's a wonderful map and it had to take a lot of time to make. But the map is being "abused". What some people are doing, although it is not against the WI rules, it is against what I would call "The Unspoken and Common Sense Rules". Since what some people are doing is not against the WI rules, the only way to stop this problem is to remove the map. But I do think the map should be "fixed" and be "reposted" at a later time.
king wolf
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Joined: 07 Jun 2012
Posts: 5
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:42 pm  

Keep. It is fair for both teams so I do not see the point of removing it
The Timinator
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Joined: 11 Dec 2011
Posts: 67
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:30 pm  

Only 2% of the time...
HALO
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Joined: 03 Jan 2012
Posts: 62
Location: USA
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:52 pm  

I say def remove unless fixed so that cyan has a better chance on winning.. But i say it shouldnt count towards leader board points!
king wolf
WI Forum Novice
Joined: 07 Jun 2012
Posts: 5
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:12 pm  

U can win as cyan easy, I did it vs some very good players. Everyone needs to stop complaining about how cyan is unfair when cyan can win easily if u know how. If u don't like how u can't win as cyan and can't figure out hOw to win as cyan than don't complain about making the map easy because u cant win as cyan or just don't even play it
anon583
Semi-frequent Poster


Joined: 29 Jul 2011
Posts: 26
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:36 pm  

XD biggest cheaters map ever. I would know cause I played it 2 months ago (Dealer prolly remembers : D ). I've tried waaaay too many times to win as cyan... I haven't won as cyan yet and I've never been close... You can take two people out if you try really hard but by then the third person has a full army... Not to mention that people who play cat and mouse always have a partner (ie studmuffin and jwy....)
aaronpg97a
Mega-Poster


Joined: 21 Dec 2011
Posts: 388
Location: Ca
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:49 pm  

King wolf you obviously arnt grasping the concept , yes cyan can win but the map has been abused into pumping and to the players gain. I have also noticed if cyan wins the players loose about 3 points each which is about 2 games worth of points. I vote ban map or make it a co-op .
king wolf
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Joined: 07 Jun 2012
Posts: 5
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:59 pm  

aaronpg97a wrote:
King wolf you obviously arnt grasping the concept , yes cyan can win but the map has been abused into pumping and to the players gain. I have also noticed if cyan wins the players loose about 3 points each which is about 2 games worth of points. I vote ban map or make it a co-op .


U ant grasping the point people are saying u can't win as cyan
jake101
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Joined: 18 Dec 2011
Posts: 6
Location: Casey,il
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:33 pm  

I say screw it i disagree with all y'll except king im one of the best players and king bet me,stud, and radom in 5 minutes i lost 10 points he knows so y'll who disagrees well idgaf so ya i vote keep it make these changes make cyan have 25 hydra half health it will be far so screw y'll my answer is keep it
aaronpg97a
Mega-Poster


Joined: 21 Dec 2011
Posts: 388
Location: Ca
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:33 pm  

King you don't grasp the point because you don't put yourself in others shoes
The Timinator
Established Forum User


Joined: 11 Dec 2011
Posts: 67
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:50 am  

Worse yet, sometimes they lose none!!! Completely rigged up...
The Timinator
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Posts: 67
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:52 am  

Well the number 1 player cant win as cyan...
wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told


Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Posts: 2221
Location: birth place of, TEXAS
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:52 am  

The Timinator wrote:
Well the number 1 player cant win as cyan...

well he doesnt need to. Since 99% of number 1 players stay on one map and choose the color. (so hes not doing much harm according to admin rule.) so then hes helping 2 players Instead of him self.

Last edited by wonderer on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:59 am; edited 1 time in total
king wolf
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Joined: 07 Jun 2012
Posts: 5
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:59 am  

aaronpg97a wrote:
King you don't grasp the point because you don't put yourself in others shoes


Ok so what am I not grasping? This whole topic is about How cyan is not a fair color. Why should we change the map when some people can't win as cyan while some other few players and me can
Da Dealer
Chat Mod Emeritus


Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Posts: 514
Location: Canton, Ohio
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:56 am  

can a mod delete all the arguments cause this is supposed to be a vote not a discussion
STUDmuffin
Developing Poster


Joined: 04 May 2012
Posts: 16
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:13 am  

I vote NO!!! :twisted: :P
aaronpg97a
Mega-Poster


Joined: 21 Dec 2011
Posts: 388
Location: Ca
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:10 pm  

-.- I swear * strangle *
The Timinator
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Joined: 11 Dec 2011
Posts: 67
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:40 pm  

I agree Dealer, and the bottom line is the only thing that matters.
N104
Administrator


Joined: 24 May 2012
Posts: 1382
Location: Pennsylvania
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:03 pm  

Quote:
can a mod delete all the arguments cause this is supposed to be a vote not a discussion

Then why not just make this a poll post in the first place?
N104
Administrator


Joined: 24 May 2012
Posts: 1382
Location: Pennsylvania
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:45 pm  

I am not changing my vote but I will say this. The cat can win. I beat STUDmuffin with my N104 (not N104!!! which is my main account) account and I was cyan. Link here: http://game.warfareincorporated.com/stats/gamedetail?g=k32-4f75d016-0001a12f&p=N104!!!
Other people have beat STUDmuffin in cat and mouse too:
http://game.warfareincorporated.com/stats/gamedetail?g=k32-4f75d016-00018885&p=N104!!!
http://game.warfareincorporated.com/stats/gamedetail?g=k32-4f75d016-000182b7&p=N104!!!
STUDmuffin
Developing Poster


Joined: 04 May 2012
Posts: 16
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:08 am  

aaron wrote:
-.- I swear * strangle *

That's a revealation. didnt know u were kinky. :P
wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told


Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Posts: 2221
Location: birth place of, TEXAS
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:04 am  

Im not sure but isnt muffin playing a different cat and mouse? Or was the map edited already?
anon583
Semi-frequent Poster


Joined: 29 Jul 2011
Posts: 26
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:00 pm  

@N104 for map one STUD mined 80k in the time you mined 30k.... He only lost cause the two anons didnt to anything... Cat and mouse is easy 1 vs 1

Map two he quit before 3 so doesn't matter

Map three Im guessing masterzan cut him off and went to the right as well because they both mined fairly little in the time.

Btw I still haven't managed to win a proper game as cat in more tries than I can count..... So my guess is I suck cause obviously the map can't be rigged (sarcasm)

And no offense... Look at the names of the people agreeing to keep cat and mouse......
wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told


Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Posts: 2221
Location: birth place of, TEXAS
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:30 pm  

make cyan tanks cost less or
give cyan more tanks for every building get destroyed or
give cyan tanks everytime a miner is destoryed or
give cyan tanks every so often.


good idea :idea: make all the cash mined by red, yellow, blue. make them give half to cyan.

so
red makes 2 grand
blue makes 1 grand
yellow makes 1 grand
that equals 4 grand
cyan will get 2 grand


that idea is a good one since cyan is by him self with one miner to start with and red,blue, yellow can make as much miners as they want.

or you can open some space up so cyan can get a hq and he can build his own miners and vts to mine faster. in his little section.
aerykhorita01
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Joined: 22 Apr 2012
Posts: 33
Location: The Underworld
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:29 am  Post subject: Cat mouse

It needs modifications
trineroks
Chief Administrator


Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Posts: 1770
Location: Southern Cali (UCLA)
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:41 am  

6 for remove, 4 for keep. I'll be taking the map down shortly for modifications.
wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told


Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Posts: 2221
Location: birth place of, TEXAS
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:58 am  Post subject: Re: Cat and Mouse Poll

trineroks wrote:
I'm posting this poll to see what the community feels about my Cat and Mouse maps. Cat and Mouse was one of the first maps I've created in Warfare Incorporated (I think it's about 2 years old now) and never has it come across any trouble than it has just recently, when certain players used the map as a source of pointfarming. I've already removed Cat and Mouse CLASSIC & REDUX, but Cat and Mouse Desert is still up.

Should I remove Cat and Mouse Desert for the time being as well, or does the community want the map still up?

Reply with "remove" or "keep". Once again, thanks for your input.
modfication thats not in your original post. Unless your going back on your word trine?
king wolf
WI Forum Novice
Joined: 07 Jun 2012
Posts: 5
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:28 am  

It doesn't even need modifications cyan can win easiley on the original and redux while it take some more stratagy in desert but cyan can still win. If u make modification it will be to easy to win as cyan
STUDmuffin
Developing Poster


Joined: 04 May 2012
Posts: 16
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:47 am  

Wolf you're wasting your breath trying to explain that c can win to players who don't want to take the time to learn how to play as cyan.

It's interesting to see some players who vote to take down all the cat & mouse maps are the ones playing it.
trineroks
Chief Administrator


Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Posts: 1770
Location: Southern Cali (UCLA)
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:03 pm  Post subject: Re: Cat and Mouse Poll

wonderer wrote:
trineroks wrote:
I'm posting this poll to see what the community feels about my Cat and Mouse maps. Cat and Mouse was one of the first maps I've created in Warfare Incorporated (I think it's about 2 years old now) and never has it come across any trouble than it has just recently, when certain players used the map as a source of pointfarming. I've already removed Cat and Mouse CLASSIC & REDUX, but Cat and Mouse Desert is still up.

Should I remove Cat and Mouse Desert for the time being as well, or does the community want the map still up?

Reply with "remove" or "keep". Once again, thanks for your input.
modfication thats not in your original post. Unless your going back on your word trine?
Never went back on my word. I asked the community if they want the map up, or down for a while until I could get things fixed. I didn't specify it in the OP, sorry.
TK Crepter
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Joined: 21 Feb 2012
Posts: 5
Location: United Kingdom
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:20 pm  

Keep the map as it gives most people enjoyment imo
aaronpg97a
Mega-Poster


Joined: 21 Dec 2011
Posts: 388
Location: Ca
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:53 pm  

More people are starting to gain points off of it