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Enzo007
Chatroom Moderator

Joined: 06 Jun 2010 Posts: 245 Location: Denver
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: Cat and Mouse CLASSIC |
No offence to trineroks at all, because he is a great map maker and a great guy (so nothing personal of course), but could Cat and Mouse be considered an unfair map? After looking through players' games and playing it myself, it seems like cyan loses close to 95% of the time. It seems like it is almost impossible for cyan to win if blue, red, and yellow all scatter in different directions when only having 3 liberators to operate with. I may not be a pro at the map but I can see the results, which is that blue, red, and yellow win an overwhelming majority of the time.
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aaronpg97a
Mega-Poster

Joined: 21 Dec 2011 Posts: 388 Location: Ca
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:30 pm |
A perfect example is stud muffin who is #1 by playing all cat n mouse
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wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told

Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 2221 Location: birth place of, TEXAS
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:43 pm |
Yeah I played that map with a few people.
If your cyan and you kill them fast before 3mins the other colors get mad at you and tell you why you even join.
If your cyan and you start killing them they all might quit before 3mins.
I played a catch and mouse the one buttstuff playes I was cyan of course cause he swaps everyone around.
On that map you can only get cylops, Andy, bull pup, and rocker luncher.
In the beginning of the map cyan gets 2 regular liberators.
By the time I raised enough money to get 3 cylops the other 3 colors have massive army. It's and unfair map.
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pheonix
Developing Poster

Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 14
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:01 pm |
I also agree, a little proof to support the statements above is the cost of units for cyan and the amount of time it takes to get them. By the time u make the 10k to get another bulpup they alrdy have armies, and the prices of troops even with 2 bulpups is still high. 2500 for 1 broadsword, 5000 for a couple rocket troops, 10000 for 3 line and 15000 for andies.
Note that a bulpup only can bring approximately 1650 galaxite at a time meaning u have to wait. Meanwhile blue, red , and yellow have time to build towers, big armies, and surround u. Also note u will not have time to build a good army before the 3 min. U will die 90% of time unless u get lucky and kill in first couple mins of the game. They will probably quit anyway if they see u about to win.
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trineroks
Chief Administrator

Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1770 Location: Southern Cali (UCLA)
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:23 pm |
I'll see what I can do to address this issue.
One thing I do know, however, is that Cat (Cyan) requires a steep learning curve. A player who knows how to handle Cat could become a formidable foe; you just need to learn when to purchase what. I have to admit though, that even in the hands of an experienced Cat player, it's still hard to win  .
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KissFromARose
Very Active User

Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 116
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:37 pm |
This a trick map for Cyan. I didnt play these cat n mouse map since i were as beginner after afew played.
Should removed all trick map!
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berlyhendrawan
Very Active User

Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 148 Location: Jakarta, indonesian
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:24 am |
confused..
deleted thats stupid map..
its 3 vs 1, the mean why im confused is when u play with low rating (<1500pts) u still got pts.. funny when u used ur high rating (example = plyr 1. >2100pts, plyr 2. >1800pts, plyr 3. > 1600pts VS cyan <1500-1300pts) the 3 plyrs still get pts..
system is broken i think
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rand0mchance
Established Forum User

Joined: 24 Oct 2010 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:39 pm |
DELETE THIS NOOBY STUPID MAP SO NOOBS LIKE STUD MUFFIN DONT GET TO #1 WITH NO SKILL, EVERYONE AGREES THIS MAP HAS UNFAIR ADVANTAGE SO DELETE IT... problem solved
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aaronpg97a
Mega-Poster

Joined: 21 Dec 2011 Posts: 388 Location: Ca
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:40 pm |
Agree
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HALO
Established Forum User

Joined: 03 Jan 2012 Posts: 62 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:41 pm |
I def agree Enzo thanks for bringing that up !!!
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jake101
WI Forum Novice

Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 6 Location: Casey,il
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject: Disagree |
Im not that good but theres always a twist for cyan to ive won almost everytime im cyan and thats a lot
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jake101
WI Forum Novice

Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 6 Location: Casey,il
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: N@te take consideration of my idea |
Dont take it away from us just reset stud make it to where the cat has 25 hydras in the beginning and take 3 shots to kill and for the buying units of cyan make it to where they dont cost as much and where they get 5of each with lots of health then it will be fair just try this once with a iupdate and have everybody review it then please take consideration of my idea please N@te just try it this once if you do thanks
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