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Some sort of tournement
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Da Dealer
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 Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:44 pm  Post subject: Some sort of tournement

It doesnt have to be a clan war we could have a user sign up page where opponents will be seeded by either rating or rank rating will probily work better so when you apply to join the tournememt you will post your name and rating of as that point and Any other post than a signup will be deleted to clean it up have a locked room called "signup for wi Inc tournement it'll have to be 1v1 on generic maps like 100k unlim 1v1 or galacite 1v1 or 03 sonic simple maps like that the map won't be agreed on by both players it will be chosen at random by whoever will be put in charge(whoevers in charge probily should be active player who has no interest in joining) or we could set 3 maps and do best of 3 and you advance to next round if you won 2 and you would have maybe 2-3 days to get together with your opponent exceptions may be made for vacaction or family things but just a thought to spark some action


I'm sure wonderer will have a long post to answer...he always does xD
wonderer
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:11 am  Post subject: Re: Some sort of tournement

Da Dealer wrote:
It doesnt have to be a clan war we could have a user sign up page where opponents will be seeded by either rating or rank rating will probily work better so when you apply to join the tournememt you will post your name and rating of as that point and Any other post than a signup will be deleted to clean it up have a locked room called "signup for wi Inc tournement it'll have to be 1v1 on generic maps like 100k unlim 1v1 or galacite 1v1 or 03 sonic simple maps like that the map won't be agreed on by both players it will be chosen at random by whoever will be put in charge(whoevers in charge probily should be active player who has no interest in joining) or we could set 3 maps and do best of 3 and you advance to next round if you won 2 and you would have maybe 2-3 days to get together with your opponent exceptions may be made for vacaction or family things but just a thought to spark some action

I'm sure wonderer will have a long post to answer...he always does xD


:lol: yeah i want this too, so lets plan it out with simple understanding rules.

most of us have more then 1 account. so if i "wonderer" wanted to join this tournement i would only be able to fight other players in my lets say weight class (like boxing). so we would have to agree with what class i belong too. by looking at my other accounts and or my highest account lets say wonderer has 2000 games scored. so i could only be in matches with other players with around the same game scored. to make it fair with the other players like "anon583" who only has like 200 games scored. of course when the anon plays more games then he would be eligible to play with the big boys.

their should be atleast 10 maps of course we all make a new topic voting to get our map on the list. 5 maps can be choosen between the 2 players. a good random way to decide what map will be played is by looking at the the game history ( i can think of something that will be perfect with anyone trying fix a match. since it breaks the game history into 4 sets of 25. )

so at the end of the day or when people get board with it should look something like this.
(ill use random simple accounts)

1 anon583
2 wolfy
3 diggles
4 gunners
5 tin
6 doom
7 susu
8 dealer
so lets say those players wanted to join the first tournement.

the 4000 wieght class will have tin, and gunners.
the 2000 weight class will have wolfy, diggles, and dealer.
the 1000 weight class will have susu, doom, and anon583.


so diggles would have to fight wolfy 5 times on different maps or 3 different maps.
diggles would also have to fight dealer 5 different on maps or 3 different maps. and so on...
at the end of that weight class matches, the one with the most wins wins in their devision.

ok now so lets say gunners and tin are the only players in their wieght class so they fight out and thats it.

if anon583, susu, doom are in the same class and anon583 wins in his class cause he has the most wins. we would have to decide if anon583 can be put back in that same class or if he has to fight with a different class. cause hes to good for that class or hes not good enought for that class. i said WE cause anon583 shouldnt be able to fight in any class he wants to cause its unfair to the other players with more matches or less matchs under their belts.


i dont think admins or mods should have anything to do with the tourments or keeping track of anything. but they should be able to play as a regular player but they have to play on a different account so they wont kick players while playing. we dont need them cause we know each others hidden accounts and we can tell if that person is to good for that weight class or hes just trying to make a name for its self.

i rather we are made to play 5 maps at least cause if someone lags out they have a chance to quit for the day and win in the other matches. and of course the other player can deicde to give that person another shot if he truly feels like he lagged out cause of phone call or weak wifi.

it wouldnt matter what account we play on as long as both players knows its the other player.

some classes could have thier own rules like
3min rule
2 min rule
1 mine rule
playing on their highest accounts
and many more if we can think of them...

the only thing i cant get over is that some people will have hidden accounts so they will enter different classes just to win as many as they can. but i still dont want admins touching anything cause they destory everything. the only thing i can think of is we make our own board with a new topic. and if we find out that a person was fighting in more then 1 class at anytime then they will be deleted and wont be able to join any tourments for 1 year.

if it ever does happen then we can make a leaderboard so we can keep track on how many times lets say dealer came in 1st or 3rd place and in what class.

for the players who dont vist the forums they wont have to vote or anything someone can just tell them in the chat room about the matches and if they refuse to play along with the rules of the class. then the other class members can either act like hes isnt playing or count only some of his matches.

i give it about 1 weeks to plan it all out and another 2 week to find the players to join the first tourment.

:P i think that covers it all. so no one feel left out or like they suck cause they arent in a different class.
:arrow: ( so much crap running though my head )
Duc Van Java
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:19 am  

fuuny, dd was right
And
Why do u do that wondy?
U always do long post
slimjimninja
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:27 am  

Hmmm if this works I may come back for it.
KissFromARose
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:30 am  

Thing like this I and GunnerS did long time ago.

We go tour from 01 to 06, 00 to 09 several times.

If someone love pts, shouldnt join the tournament :lol:
aaronpg97a
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:06 am  

I ain't the best player like you pros but I'll join for experience and hopefully win 1 game or 2
wonderer
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:16 am  

Why are you even putting your self down. If you dont think you can win games against other players that are on your same level then stop posting and play some more warfare inc.
See duc thats a perfect reason why i post big so people like him wont feel left out cause theirs only so many people to compete against one another. I couldnt leave them out
Da Dealer
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:16 pm  

I was thinking along these lines

-ranked in the tournement tree by your rating in the game

-mods check accounts to see if it's your main Id or highest at the time(if have a secret account that you don't want discovered I recomend you don't register it)

-think of it as the NCAA mens basketball tourney the best plays the worst than the 2nd plays 2nd worst and so on eventually it will end up at like 8 vs 9 seed which will be even and 7 vs 10 6 vs 11 and it gets less competetive after that

-you would have 2-3 days to play your match using pm or just being on a lot to get with your opponent

-no resigning under 3 minutes even if you mess up a basketball team can't just restart the game if they get down big

-if your opponents never on and others in the community verrify that they havent seem him/her

-Each game will have to be reported by both players on forum(we know they will use forum cause that's where signup will be)

- or instead of checking main accs we would have an acc example *Dealer tournement* where you will play no other games but vs your tounment oppontent so it'd be easier to keep track of

-i guess wondy we could try to orchestrate it but I would want to compete so it would be unfair for me and you to compete..
Da Dealer
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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:25 pm  

A very bad outline of what It may look like

________ vs
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________vs......________
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..........................................._________ vs (championship)
________vs.........................._________
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________ vs
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*that was rlly hard to make

Had to use dots cause spaces dont register so it'd be smushed toghter

Last edited by Da Dealer on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:31 pm; edited 2 times in total
Enzo007
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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:39 pm  

I really like DD's idea. Using seeding based on leaderboard rank would probably be the easiest way to organize the tournament. Wonderer, your idea is interesting, although since this would be our first time trying to organize a tournament, I think we should keep it more on the simple side.

A couple thoughts have come to mind:

- Since different players have different views on the point system, we could give a week notice for players to get their ratings up so that they can get a better seed in the tournament. For example, I think it is safe to say that players like Da Dealer, Berly, and Zacklicious are obviously competitive when it comes to the leaderboard (since they are all ranked within the top 5), but at the same time, skilled players like Wonderer for example don't value points as much, teaming with basically whoever, playing maps that they have never played, ect. It gives players like that more time to get their rating up if they choose to have higher seed in the tournament.

- DD and I were talking about this in game and he thought of possibly making tourney accounts like "Enzo007*tourney" or something like that so higher ranked players aren't at a total disadvantage if they lose. Plus I think it would helpful if all tournament game history was located on a seperate account so if we have to verify who wins a match it would be easier to find, rather than fishing through that player's main account game history where it could be mixed with regular games.

- Lastly, it would be great if there could be some type of reward for the grand champion. We would need to get help from an admin to do this but like the winner could get a star or some sort of indication showing that a player has won a tournament. For example, a player who has won one tournament in their WI career shows 1 star on their profile, and a player who has won three tournaments it shows 3 stars on their profile. Of course I don't have access to do this but I wonder if it is possible for the admins to do it, since Nate has shown the ability to add custom forum ranks when somebody reaches 2000 posts.
wonderer
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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:35 pm  

So I'm going to have to play lower skilled players or I have a chance to play everyone?

If I have a chance of playing everyone then I don't think players like Aaron will like that to much. Not trying to be mean but I don't want to play someone who thinks he's going to lose before we even decide on the map.

Your saying my version is harder then dealers version. I dont see admins using their powers just to help our tournament since they don't even help in clans. My version we the people can decide if that player is to good for that class.
wonderer
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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:36 pm  

Unless we have 2 different styles of tournaments ?
Da Dealer
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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:34 pm  

Say a player with average skills goes against me on a generic map wondy it's not like they have no chance, it's not like were doing digout unless we did 1 game my map one game their map and one game unlim1v1 As a pattern[/code]