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ignatius
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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:35 am  Post subject: Zodiac support?

I imagine this will work on the upcoming Tapwave Zodiac but will there be a version that fully exploits the Zodiac's incredible specs?
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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 1:08 pm  

What is the Zodiac?

http://www.pocketloft.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1447




Palm OS 5.2

i.MX1™ Motorola® ARM9 Processor running at 200 mhz

Dual SD I/O expansion slots

Analog controller, integrated triggers and a full complement of action buttons

Wide-Res 480 x 320 transflective display (portrait or landscape)

Unique ergo-centric design, weighing less than 6 ounces

All-inclusive gaming environment with the Fathammer X-
Forge™ 3D Game Engine

ATI® Imageon™ 3D graphics accelerator

Yamaha audio component, stereo speakers and earbud-style headphones

Dual lithium batteries (1540mAh)

Rumble effects

Full-featured digital music player

Built-in Bluetooth™ networking for multiplayer wireless gaming and wireless network creation

High-score conduit for community competition

A metalic stylus held on the top by two clasps (a la Visor Edge)

About .6 inches thick
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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 2:06 pm  

Warfare Incorporated has been tuned for a very large range of devices, including Tapwave Zodiac. Special support was put in the product to take advantage of Zodiac's graphics hardware.

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 7:03 pm  

We all know about the Zodaic, I promise...;)
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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:18 pm  

Looking forward to it. Intend to order one as soon as available.
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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:52 pm  

I am getting one, but not right when they are available...:)
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:45 pm  

*I think Zodiac's are cool, but to much $$$ to get one...
*You most likely wont see a difference in the game...
*You getting it for the palm in whole, or just the game?
*I think it is more like a Gameboy than a palm(not that anything is wrong with the game boy)...

What i am trying to say is that while the Tapwave Zodiac is cool and all, you sholdnt buy one becouse you want a palm, but becouse you want to play games... If you want a palm get one like a Sony.
:)
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:21 pm  

This is way better than any Sony device. This is way smaller, this can do a lot more (way more than a gameboy can, plus the games are a MILLION times better). Not only that, it was dual batteries, dual speakers (awesome stereo sound), dual expansion slots, etc.

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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:23 pm  

Mabe but will it some thing like the MQGX.prc from the game?
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:24 pm  

What?
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:27 pm  

U where just in that form...
http://www.handmark.com/warfare/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90[/url]
what are you talking about? :?:
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:28 pm  

[quote="XboxJunkie101"]Mabe but will it some thing like the MQGX.prc from the game?[/quote]

You may have typed this wrong, but this makes no sense, especially since we are talking about the Tapwave Zodiac right now...
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:31 pm  

from this form:
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:12 am Post subject: Purpose of the MQGX.prc

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What is the purpose of it? the installer said it is the graphics accelerator for Clies.

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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:13 pm Post subject:

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I can't run this Game when I install MQGX.prc.If I don't install MQGX.prc,I can play the Game.
I used sony clie sj33.

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That's wierd. I never new it was just for Clies...Why is that Scott? Shoudn't you make one that helps imporve teh graphics speed for all deives?
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The game is optimized heavily across all Palm device types. In the case of pre-OS 5 Clie devices, the game can get an extra boost from the MediaQ graphics accelerator chip found in those devices. MQGX.prc is simply the interface the game uses to use this graphics accelerator. Minor fact: the Palm m130 also uses the MediaQ chip.
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I'll just be deleting that then...
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Now get it i was saying that it might not take advantage of the hardware
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:34 pm  

Yeah, Scott said they optimized it to take advantage of teh Zodiacs Hardware (the ATI Imageon 3d graphics card and the X-Forge 3d game engine). The processor alone can handle the game, but with these, this makes it even easier for the device to handle. Besides, the ATI and X-Forge are way better than the Q-chip thing the Clie's have...
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:37 pm  

where did he say that...?
anyways it wont make that big of a differance mabe a little :D
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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:41 pm  

[quote="XboxJunkie101"]where did he say that...?[quote]

It's the third post in this forum...

[quote="XboxJunkie101"]anyways it wont make that big of a differance mabe a little :D[/quote]

Wat, the ATI graphics card and the X-Forge engine? Maybe not with this game, but this device can handle games that the current clie's couldn' handle (including teh UX series).
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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:03 am  

[quote="XboxJunkie101"]*I think Zodiac's are cool, but to much $$$ to get one...
*You most likely wont see a difference in the game...
*You getting it for the palm in whole, or just the game?
*I think it is more like a Gameboy than a palm(not that anything is wrong with the game boy)...

What i am trying to say is that while the Tapwave Zodiac is cool and all, you sholdnt buy one becouse you want a palm, but becouse you want to play games... If you want a palm get one like a Sony.
:)[/quote]


It has the best specs of any PDA and costs less than a Clie NX series. Why not get it even if not interested in gaming? I'm interested in both though so intend to take a good look at it.

I find it strange that some say it is pricey. At $300, it is cheaper than most high end PDAs yet has better specs.
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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 6:48 am  

Yeah...really. It drives me nuts when they say it is pricy, but I don't think most people are looking at it in the Palm view, they are just looking at it from the gaming aspect (when they should really be looking at it in several different views. An mp3 player, a video player, a Palm, and a Playstation. If they looked at it that way, they would know it is very cheap).
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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:36 am  

[quote="DBZ-GOKU-"]Yeah...really. It drives me nuts when they say it is pricy, but I don't think most people are looking at it in the Palm view, they are just looking at it from the gaming aspect (when they should really be looking at it in several different views. An mp3 player, a video player, a Palm, and a Playstation. If they looked at it that way, they would know it is very cheap).[/quote]

Yes... I see your point of view finally and I agree and disagree, if it is over $500, i dissagree, you should just buy a sony clie, and a Mp3 player, but if it is about $300 I agree with you.
How much is it? :?:
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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:38 am  

The Zodaic is $300 for the 32mb version and $400 for the 128mb version (128mb ALL THE WAY!!! :)).
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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:40 am  

for that price you could buy a Palm that plays games like Warfare Incorporated well (sony clie) and a nice MP3 Player :!:
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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:44 am  

Can you play nice games like the Zodiac has...no. Does it have a graphics card...no. Does it have 128mb RAM...not even close. Does it have a 3d graphics engine..no. Does it have dual expansion slots...no. Does it have an SDIO slot...no, does it have dual batteries...no. Does it have dual stereo speakers...no. The Zodiac is way better than a Clie...I'm sorry if you don't believe that.
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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:08 am  

Mabe better in other games,
:!: BUT :!:
Most likly not for WARFARE INC.
That is what i am trying to say :!: :!: :!:

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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:37 am  

Oh...ok. It will still be better even with Warfare...:)
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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:46 pm  

Here's a great user group for Zodiac. Need to signup with Yahoo Groups. It has all kinds of info including the manual in the files section. They are taking pre-orders on Wednesday.. I'm ordering one.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tapwave_users/



Now... on to mission 12.
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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 10:23 pm  

I already joined it. Also, I would order one, but aI don not have enough at the moment (I would, but Homecoming...Oh well...Ladies first...:)).
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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:34 pm  

The Zodiac was officially announced today and you can now place pre-orders. I ordered one this morning, the Zodiac 2. They are shipping in Oct., some think mid-October.

So I realize that the Palm version will run on Zodiac, but does the current binary release fully exploit Zodiac's abilities (graphics engine, stereo sound, etc.) or is there a separate release coming?

What will WFI support on Zodiac that is unique from other PDA's?
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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:38 pm  

Could you order me one too? I want one...but I will not be able to get one forever (I have aboput $150, and I want to get the 128mb one...)...
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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:14 am  

[quote="ignatius"]The Zodiac was officially announced today and you can now place pre-orders. I ordered one this morning, the Zodiac 2. They are shipping in Oct., some think mid-October.

So I realize that the Palm version will run on Zodiac, but does the current binary release fully exploit Zodiac's abilities (graphics engine, stereo sound, etc.) or is there a separate release coming?

What will WFI support on Zodiac that is unique from other PDA's?[/quote]

We put special support in the game for Zodiac to take advantage of its graphics hardware. It runs great!
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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:09 am  

"Special support was put in the product to take advantage of Zodiac's graphics hardware. "

He said it right there :P And even if you don't want one for gaming a zodiac 2 is a heck o a lot better than current os5 pda's for normal pda'ing.
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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:18 pm  

[quote="helf"]"Special support was put in the product to take advantage of Zodiac's graphics hardware. "

He said it right there :P And even if you don't want one for gaming a zodiac 2 is a heck o a lot better than current os5 pda's for normal pda'ing.[/quote]


OS 5, have you guys and gals seen it :?: It is Beautifully put together, (I wish i had OS5 :cry: )

...anyways I was wondering that someone in this room will tell me what OS does the Zodiac run :?:

(If it is OS5 I will buy one :!: ...

... Must Have OS5 :cry: )
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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:30 pm  

[quote="XboxJunkie101"][quote="helf"]"
(If it is OS5 I will buy one :!: ...

... Must Have OS5 :cry: )[/quote]


Yes, check out the specs in post #2.

Also check out tapwave.com
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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:43 pm  

Of course it has OS5, it has an optimized version just for the Zodiac. What did youi think they were going to put on it, OS3.5?
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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:20 pm  

No,
OS 4.1

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:53 pm  

From Tapwave's Knowledge database: "The Zodiac™ console is based on Palm OS® 5.2.6 with Tapwave enhancements. This version is called 5.2T."
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 Post Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:10 pm  

OK I just noticed this...

I can not find the hard buttons on this palm where are they...
does it have any?

Also where is the wrighting area and soft buttons????
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 Post Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:03 pm  

Have you even seen what it looks like? There is a hard button on the top (for bluetooth, but may be able to be used for other things (if you change it in the system), not sure), there is a button right above the anolog controller (left side of handheld), and there are two below that. There are also two triggers on the top/side of the handheld, like a GBA. On the right hand side of the handheld there is the four key directional pad.

In total, there are 10 hard keys, 11 with the anaolg controller (18 if you include all of the moves it can do). Soft buttons? What do you mean, the reset button? That is on the back and you use the styuls tip to reset it, like with the T|T. The writing area is like on a Clie, it is part of the graphics, and you can have it there, or you can have it gone.