clan leaderboard

[Da Dealer]

yes......no

[wonderer]

i say they shouldn't be allowed to be used on clan leaderboard. i did notice coLt account is hidden but he is still able to use that account on the clan leaderboard. its just stupid to hid your account just cause your a mod.

im wondering why coit account isn't hidden or redscorpion since both accounts are made by the same player which he is a mod.

i did see colt or coit chatting in the chat room and redscorpion account playing a game. i hud nate tell us not to share accounts or we will get into trouble but i guess the rule can be bend by other mods. redscorpion account should be rest since someone is gaining or giving their points away.

[Colt]

wonderer wrote:

i did see colt or coit chatting in the chat room and redscorpion account playing a game.

Maybe a lag? I do not share accounts. Both colt and redscorpion share the same password, and hold moderator status. I don't share my private information.

wonderer wrote:

i did notice coLt account is hidden but he is still able to use that account on the clan leaderboard

The leaderboard is for players, not moderators. Players may still view the accounts of Thantos and Colt. If our points are visible, there is no reason not to compete. The leaderboard is designed for bragging rights, and has no affect on our number of points.


That being said, if an account is quarantined as punishment, then it should not receive the bonus of clan wars. But Thantos and I aren't being punished, so there is no reason to ban us from Clan Wars.

[wonderer]

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Both colt and redscorpion share the same password, and hold moderator status. I don't share my private information.

your saying your not coit or redscorpion then. so your saying you dont mind players impersnate you?

[Sub-Zero]

impersonating is not allowed. Also, like colt said. Colt and Thantos are hidden on the leaderboard, not because of pumping/cheating. Admins have decided that being on the leaderboard (25 and above) could cause problems. So its just best that mods/admin are hidden on the leaderboard. But they are still allowed to participate in the clan leaderboard.

[wonderer]

Sub-Zero wrote:

So its just best that mods/admin are hidden on the leaderboard.

o so that's why coit and red are still on the leaderboard cause they arnt mods that don't make sence. if colt is a mod that means coit is impersonating a mod.

[Cloud]

Wondy, it looks like u misunderstand. Colt and Coit are the same person. But Colt is in the top 25 while Coit isn't. So therefore there is only need to hide Colt and not Coit. The same goes for me. Thantos is in the top 25 while Cloud isn't. So there is only need to hide Thantos. Got it?

[wonderer]

ummm so why hid them?

oh so if your account makes it to top25 you don't want players to think you cheated to get up their. bur being in top100 or top50 it don't matter if you did cheat

[Colt]

For arguement's sake I'm going to speak in third person.

Moderators and administrators are not allowed to have accounts in the top 25 of the player leaderboard. We do this to prevent controversy and pending complaints.

Thantos and Colt were both in the top 5. Both players are moderators. Because they are mods, they are not allowed to be in the top 25. However, both Thantos and Colt compete in clan wars. To solve this, the accounts have been hidden from the leaderboard. That way, they aren't in the top 25, and their points may still be used for Clan Wars.

Cloud and redscorpion, our alternate ID's, are not in the top 25. We are moderators, but because we are not in the top 25, we are still visible. There is no cheating involved here. The only reason Colt and Thantos are hidden is because they were in the top 25. LawrenceA was hidden for the same reason. Because Cloud and redscorpion are not top 25, they do not need to be hidden.


On a final note, I am one player. No one is impersonating me.

Colt, redscorpion, Coit, Jaffar, Sephiroth

These are my accounts. No one uses them but me, and there is no cheating occuring on any of them.


That is about as clear as I can make it for you, wonderer.

[Mithoz]

Yes if they are hidden. No if they are banned

[warkilla van java]

Like I said if your a mod or admins you shouldn't be playing anymore because it's nor fair. I thought if your an admin your acc would be remove in the leaderboard (can't compete in any activities including clan wars). If admins and mods could still compete it's useless removing them at the
Leaderboard because it would still be the same.

The admins could still play like regular players but their advantage is that they can see who to avoid. They will know What acc belongs to who and when to use their main acc against that player hiding. While regular players Like us have no idea Who we playing and wether to play them or not.

This should be change, it's just ruining the game. Beside why do we even need Soo much admins and mods this community isn't that big. We should only have 2 admins and 2-3mods. Get more admins and mods once we get 50 active players playing this game.

Also if you want to be an admin or mod (the power to see players acc) there should be a disadvantage. If you choose to be an admin for this game you shouldnt be allowed to play anymore or compete. But if you don't den you would be able to play anytime you want.

I thought this game was getting better but as the day goes by it gets crappy and crappier because of all this admin and mod ability have. I suggest you guys should fix this. This is worst Dan pumping problem and swearing in chat.

[archangel666]

warkilla van java wrote:

Like I said if your a mod or admins you shouldn't be playing anymore because it's nor fair. I thought if your an admin your acc would be remove in the leaderboard (can't compete in any activities including clan wars). If admins and mods could still compete it's useless removing them at the
Leaderboard because it would still be the same.

The admins could still play like regular players but their advantage is that they can see who to avoid. They will know What acc belongs to who and when to use their main acc against that player hiding. While regular players Like us have no idea Who we playing and wether to play them or not.

This should be change, it's just ruining the game. Beside why do we even need Soo much admins and mods this community isn't that big. We should only have 2 admins and 2-3mods. Get more admins and mods once we get 50 active players playing this game.

Also if you want to be an admin or mod (the power to see players acc) there should be a disadvantage. If you choose to be an admin for this game you shouldnt be allowed to play anymore or compete. But if you don't den you would be able to play anytime you want.

I thought this game was getting better but as the day goes by it gets crappy and crappier because of all this admin and mod ability have. I suggest you guys should fix this. This is worst Dan pumping problem and swearing in chat.

yo foo itsa meeh ur old friend. i agreee wid warkilla wid all mah monay ovah beotches. hes spot on. admins shouldnt even be alowsd to know secret ids. its secret yo. only scot should know! who da efff trust nate or other mods?heck they say mashizle in da chatroom yo.i even hurd dem mods adn admin revealing ids to otha playaz. no fair coz mods and admin got faves foos! yo foos wazup wid dem mods and admin? dem gotta pay da price foo! peaze out bruthaz!

[wonderer]

dam it's about time

red

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Colt, redscorpion, Coit, Jaffar, Sephiroth

These are my accounts. No one uses them but me, and there is no cheating occuring on any of them.

[Cloud]

warkilla van java wrote:

Like I said if your a mod or admins you shouldn't be playing anymore because it's nor fair. I thought if your an admin your acc would be remove in the leaderboard (can't compete in any activities including clan wars). If admins and mods could still compete it's useless removing them at the
Leaderboard because it would still be the same.

The admins could still play like regular players but their advantage is that they can see who to avoid. They will know What acc belongs to who and when to use their main acc against that player hiding. While regular players Like us have no idea Who we playing and wether to play them or not.

This should be change, it's just ruining the game. Beside why do we even need Soo much admins and mods this community isn't that big. We should only have 2 admins and 2-3mods. Get more admins and mods once we get 50 active players playing this game.

Also if you want to be an admin or mod (the power to see players acc) there should be a disadvantage. If you choose to be an admin for this game you shouldnt be allowed to play anymore or compete. But if you don't den you would be able to play anytime you want.

I thought this game was getting better but as the day goes by it gets crappy and crappier because of all this admin and mod ability have. I suggest you guys should fix this. This is worst Dan pumping problem and swearing in chat.

That isn't exactly true. U guys act like we only play certain players. That's not true. I play most players, even on their secret accounts. The only time I don't play someone is if I'm certain that I'm going to lose or I suck at the map or low battery. Just because u know who is who doesn't mean we remember it all the time. Remember that.

As for mods and admins not participating in acitivites, that isn't fair. U guys act like Ur the only ones who bought the game. Mods and admins bought the game also, and we also want to be satisfied. It's a game, and excluding us from the activities is harsh, cruel, and kinda rude. I bet if you were a mod or admin and u couldn't rep Van Java, then you would be upset too, would u not?



We actually do have more then 50 active player playing this game. So the number of mods and admins is fine. I know sometimes you guys feel suffocated by the mass amount of mods and admin, but there really aren't that many. We are just very active and sometimes we are in the chatroom talking.

If you feel like the game is gettin worse, then just stop playing. Nobody is making you play this game except for you. The game does ge better every day, u just may not notice it.

[Duc Van Java]

Its useless arguing with mods!!!
They Break, tear, rip and bend rules!
They have power and we dont!
and the higher ranks dont listen!!
"i guess"
they go blind!!!!
Ohhhhhhhhh
my eyessss!!!!!

[Da Dealer]

But reds not a mod?

[wonderer]

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U guys act like we only play certain players. That's not true. I play most players, even on their secret accounts

see you all do look at our other accounts of who's who can't trust mod theses days

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Just because u know who is who doesn't mean we remember it all the time. Remember that.

that's not true cloud when I was in viet pride I sometimes login as anon and subzero would wisper to me before I said or joined a game. so don't act like you all don't look and see who it is I can't even play this with out mods noticing me.

[LawrenceA]

wonderer, moderators cannot see peoples secret id's. I cant see any problem with mods or admins playing WI if they aren't after points.
lets all just stop contriving these arguments.

[warkilla van java]

I don't mean 50players in general. I talking bout 50players online in the chat at the same time.

[sam]

warkilla van java wrote:

I don't mean 50players in general. I talking bout 50players online in the chat at the same time.

im pretty sure this game doesnt even have 50 players lol

[warkilla van java]

That's what I'm trying to say Sam, can you read my first post bout this and comment

[sam]

warkilla van java wrote:

That's what I'm trying to say Sam, can you read my first post bout this and comment

Ahhhhhhh i get you now yeah there are to many mods right now

[Da Dealer]

i think its harder for us the older players of the game to accept the mods i myself cant respect them cause i remeber the game as it was and i miss it

[Dr. Diggles]

sam wrote:

warkilla van java wrote:

That's what I'm trying to say Sam, can you read my first post bout this and comment

Ahhhhhhh i get you now yeah there are to many mods right now

Agreed.

Da Dealer wrote:

i think its harder for us the older players of the game to accept the mods i myself cant respect them cause i remeber the game as it was and i miss it

Agreed.

As for the poll question, please unhide accounts on the leaderboard. I don't think it's fair to competing clans to not know where their competition is on the leaderboard. What's the big deal with having mods in the top 25? Maybe we should have less mods? Or mods shouldn't be in clans?

[Cloud]

1 thing I don't understand is why everyone is coming at us mods. Mods and Admins were put in place to enforce the rules and assist Scott. We try to make the game better and more peaceful for all the players. But all you guys do is act like little kids. When u get punished, you guys throw tantrums and "tell" on us to Scott. After a while, it gets annoying. Everybody makes mistakes, but when mods make mistakes, you guys always scrutinize us for it. They are simple mistakes. Get over them. If you guys act up, then you will get punished. End of story. There is no, please I wont do it again just please don't mute me.

The number of mods is fine. The number of troublemakers needs to drop. I'm so sick and tired of all you old players thinking you run this game. I don't care if you've been playing this for 5 years. You don't run this game. So give it up. You people try to act all cool and bad infront of your friends. It's not cool. Everybody who makes trouble and picks fights to look cool is lame. If this was the real world, you wouldn't do that. You know good and well that you would just mind your own business.
If you miss the game as it was then talk about it. Don't just act up and pick fights. Or you can just accept the game as it is. You can't always dwell on the past. The past is the past. The future is now.

Why should the be unhidden? They were hidden for a reason. If you truly care about their rating, then go look it up.
It's funny how now you guys say mods shouldn't be in clans. You didn't have a problem with it before, so why do u have a problem now? It's not like we are causing harm to other clans.


LEAVE THE MODS ALONE. WE DO THE BEST WE CAN SO DON'T COMPLAIN. ITS NOT AS EASY AY IT LOOKS. ITS A GAME. GET OVER IT!!!

[Dr. Diggles]

Cloud wrote:

Why should the be unhidden? They were hidden for a reason. If you truly care about their rating, then go look it up.
It's funny how now you guys say mods shouldn't be in clans. You didn't have a problem with it before, so why do u have a problem now? It's not like we are causing harm to other clans.

I was wondering why they were hidden at all? I don't think any acct should be hidden from the leaderboard. Just leave it be, all natural as it was a few weeks back. If a player is repping for a clan, their account should be visible, whether they are mod or not. Period. It's not fair otherwise. I don't care if mods are in clans or not. I'd like to see this mod drama die down soon, so I hope you all find a solution for whatever people are crying about.

[Cloud]

If you don't remember, player were harassing LawrenceA because he was number 1 on the board. To prevent this from happening again, all mods in the top 25 were hidden. If that is a problem, then talk to Scottlu. And again, if you care so much about their score, go look it up.

[Dr. Diggles]

Cloud wrote:

If you don't remember, player were harassing LawrenceA because he was number 1 on the board. To prevent this from happening again, all mods in the top 25 were hidden. If that is a problem, then talk to Scottlu. And again, if you care so much about their score, go look it up.

Ok. Forget the mod talk for a second. Focus on the weekly clan leaderboard. If you are repping for a clan, then your account should NOT be hidden. Why should participating clan members have to "go look up" an opponents score? How is that fair? You have a right to disagree but I make a valid point. I will mention this to Sub since he runs the clan leaderboard.

[Cloud]

You really dont make a valid point. Being hidden is diffrent from being removed. People are hidden for various reasons. Sub already knows if it is t obvious.

[Dr. Diggles]

Cloud wrote:

You really dont make a valid point. Being hidden is diffrent from being removed. People are hidden for various reasons. Sub already knows if it is t obvious.

You need to re-read my last post several times to let it sink in. I never said removed. I never said Sub didn't know. How is my point not valid? Explain yourself...

[Cloud]

Ur not understanding what I'm saying. The way things are is fine. If you get hidden on the leaderboard, then you may or may not be in trouble. But if you are removed from the board, then you are in trouble or the account has been requested to be deleted.

[Dr. Diggles]

I see what you are saying, but you are straying away from what I was talking about, as I never said anything about removed accounts. I'm strictly talking about hidden.

What I'm saying is not difficult to understand... Maybe you need to think from another players perspective here.

Once again, I do not think its fair for clan members to have their account hidden from the leaderboard, if they are repping a clan. Clan members should not have to "go look up" an oppenents account because it's not displayed on the leaderboard. That is not fair. How can clans know if they are ahead or behind their opponents? Oh, they should "go look it up"? Why the added inconvenience ?

[galm]

Sone people like to trash the mods and respect players more in general but I get what u mean, an inmodded chatroom would be nice sometimes.

[warkilla van java]

I agree

[Da Dealer]

this whole thing is straying away from the topic

[galm]

Just thought I'd point out there are way more than 50 active players there are several hundred active and semi active players and anons.

[wonderer]

lol trine poste got deleted too. lol

[scottlu]

It's me deleting them. If anyone has a complaint about mods or players, PM me directly, or better yet PM the person directly, and deal with it, but not on a public forum.

[Wolfy]

You guys. Always say pm them and stuff and then yalldont even do anything...

[N@TE]

Wolfy wrote:

You guys. Always say pm them and stuff and then yalldont even do anything...

If you Private Message me, I try my best to give you a fast response. It may be a day, or the occasional two, but I know that players want answers to the question that they ask me.

[scottlu]

Wolfy wrote:

You guys. Always say pm them and stuff and then yalldont even do anything...

Are you kidding? We are addressing issues and concerns constantly. Maybe your personal concern was not addressed? Sorry.

[Mithoz]

scottlu wrote:

Are you kidding?

hahahaha

[scottlu]

I'm locking this thread. Any issues with that, please PM me.

I and others will consider the unmodded chatroom request.