Please alphabetically ....joke lol

[kou]

Now we are 1832.6.


Who are the 5??

[Sub-Zero]

Go here:

http://www.warfareincorporated.com/xyzzy/viewtopic.php?t=5677

to view your 5 representatives.

[kou]

thank you . i never check.
Why withou mat account?

[berly van java]

alphabet inactive a week, so cant be representative..
mat ( buddy ) play 1 game a week plz.. so i can used ur ids for leaderboard
thanks

[Sub-Zero]

As long as a player has played within 2 weeks, they are active.

[berly van java]

lololol.. im confused?!?!?
sub...
why u cant insert alphabet for ids leaderboard? in my pm, i tell u to insert alphabet, but u wont..

[anon1234]

berly van java wrote:

lololol.. im confused?!?!?
sub...
why u cant insert alphabet for ids leaderboard? in my pm, i tell u to insert alphabet, but u wont..

maybe he doesnt know alphabet lol

[wonderer]

berly van java wrote:

lololol.. im confused?!?!?
sub...
why u cant insert alphabet for ids leaderboard? in my pm, i tell u to insert alphabet, but u wont..

maybe he's in different clan xD

[Sub-Zero]

Berly, I asked you if you would like Blake to be added since it was your next highest account on the Leaderboard and you said "whatever..."

[Mithoz]

Sorry I will play alphabet more often. Been really busy lately, and I've kinda lost interest in points.

I think monkey has more points than alphabet anyway. So he can take my spot until I become fully active

[valicious]

If this situation plus others involving mods keep going, chances are players will revolt and boycott you (mods/admins) more guys. I know personally that the mods are supposed to be making things better, but in case you guys haven't noticed, more and more players are actually complaining about mods now. I am not saying that mods are doing a bad job. All I ask is maybe it's time mods and admins swallowed their pride and stop making enemies out of players and start making solutions to make things a lot more enjoyable. I've also heard that some mods are actually making accusations and cussing in the chatroom, which I cannot prove because I am hardly online. I really would hate to argue with any players or mods or admins about these things, but sometimes things aren't what they seem. Be open-minded. And if we, the players who bought this game, are asked suggested to leave this game just because of complaints, then there is definitely something wrong with whoever is suggesting or asking that. We, the players, the consumers, bought this game, regardless of the price, due to certain expectations and promises. If those expectations and/or promises are not met, then something has to be done to compensate or appease us, the consumers/players. We do not expect a fortune from the officials, we just need real solutions to problems that have been around now for as long as I can remember since I started playing this game. The main reasons why I got addicted to this game were the multi-player and uncensore chat option. Sadly, even though this game is rated PG 13, it is being run like it is PG, especially the chatroom. Even the clan pages are now being unjustly managed by people other than the assigned mods. Sure it's a bonus to have these things, but hey, if it's given to us, then why not let us manage it? It's PG 13 guys. If there are any readers under 13 then is that our fault? There are so many wrong things here on so many level and I was always one of those people really wanting to find the solutions to make this game more fun and I still am hoping to be able to help because I really like some of the players here, but unfortunately, just after all my contributions, I am now treated like garbage, just like the others before and with me who tried to do the same.

To all van javas, we do not need to participate in this so-called clan wars. This is why I did not sign up for it in the first place. I knew it would be full of flaws. But knowing subzero, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, subzero is acting like the other mods now or what they did and still doing that I was complaining about. I quit complaining and no more effort comes from me when it comes to bettering anything here since I know for a fact that this game or is now being run by certain people. Too bad Scott is totally oblivious to what really is going on. I don't blame him though since he's hardly in he chatroom anyway and he mostly talks to a selected few.

By the way, please stop invading our private conversations. You know, like reading private messages sent to other players and entering private chatrooms when there are people in them. Ask for permission first. It has never happened to me but it did happen to others.

[Duc Van Java]

I agree to Val, any way javas we dont have nothin to' prove.
Where javas and they kno Who we r.

[valicious]

Before I make it official, I would like to set up a poll whether or not we will still be a part of the unofficial clan wars. I for one say NO. But I respect the majority's decision what ever it may be. So please van javas, vote now. You do not need to give any reason, but you may if you would like to. It's about time we showed these officials who make up this entire warfare community.

[Duc Van Java]

Hard to' say, i swear To my god, it was my idea to' put cuss censor and i pm scott putting some cencors cos i was worried about the kids Who plays this app,( coz thier Are so many cussing at that time,) but i never thought chat mods will be' added. Cencors Are enough, we dont need chat mods Who control and run when ever they want, yesterday or the other day, one of the chat mods saying to' one of the players that he cheats and keep insisting it even he had not enough evidence, is that even right to' a mod Who say this things in public? And another chat mod used to' be' cool but now hes not.
Yesterday i got block to' server by mods w/out doin anything, only saying 2 words, its not even a cuss ar any offensive.
Were here to have fun not to' get strangled.
I agree to vhal, i say no..
U guys decide what u think, what make u feel happy to' this game..

[valicious]

Duc Van Java wrote:

Hard to' say, i swear To my god, it was my idea to' put cuss censor and i pm scott putting some cencors cos i was worried about the kids Who plays this app,( coz thier Are so many cussing at that time,) but i never thought chat mods will be' added. Cencors Are enough, we dont need chat mods Who control and run when ever they want, yesterday or the other day, one of the chat mods saying to' one of the players that he cheats and keep insisting it even he had not enough evidence, is that even right to' a mod Who say this things in public? And another chat mod used to' be' cool but now hes not.
Yesterday i got block to' server by mods w/out doin anything, only saying 2 words, its not even a cuss ar any offensive.
Were here to have fun not to' get strangled.
I agree to vhal, i say no..
U guys decide what u think, what make u feel happy to' this game..

Well I was actually among those who voted to add the censor. But now it's just too much. It filters words that should not be filtered and makes it look like we're actually swearing. It also censors some words that are not even meant to be offensive. Scott is so worried about very young kids and yet he forgets that this isn't meant to be for the very young ones. There should be 2 main rooms. 1 for censored and one for uncensored. I mean even if the censor blocks cuss words mods still kick players out anyway since they cAn see them in grey text. So what exactly is the point then?

[wonderer]

I can prove two weeks ago Nate cursed in chat room. and cloud told someone "he's his daddy" and he also told that players he sucks at the game. but who to send it to since no mods can do bad.


I didn't want chat mods but I wanted the computer censor cause it's the computer not some player who can have a mood swing.

I never like sub leaderboard cause people are still camping up their and still only playing cretion maps. some one asked a other high ranked player if he wanted to play his map first and my map next. the other player said no. so sub leaderboard is about who can beat the most noobs.

[berly van java]

three for NO...
thanks

[Mithoz]

Hmmm I'm agree with my bros.

No

(but consider that without clan leaderboard we will not have as much motivation to play)

[valicious]

Mithoz wrote:

Hmmm I'm agree with my bros.

No

(but consider that without clan leaderboard we will not have as much motivation to play)

With that being said, I hope they realize that this game is failing if more and more players like us are no longer motivated to come here for a chat or play as often as we used to. Who will tell other prospects that this is a fun community if we ourselves are being deprived of it slowly but surely. Honestly, the only reason I come back here is because of some of the great people that I enjoy conversing with. If not for that, I'd be long gone for good.

By the way, do you guys know of any game where can play and chat like here? I am hoping to find one and see you guys there. Otherwise I guess I'll keep coming back here to chat and play a game or two with you guys and some of the great people that make or made this game so much fun.

[scottlu]

Two chat rooms isn't a bad idea.

I guess I don't know why cussing is so entertaining. I'm not being underserved by having swearing filtered, but then I dont swear. I understand others may feel differently.

If you really want a cussing room, that may be possible. I will ask around to see what others think.

[valicious]

scottlu wrote:

Two chat rooms isn't a bad idea.

I guess I don't know why cussing is so entertaining. I'm not being underserved by having swearing filtered, but then I dont swear. I understand others may feel differently.

If you really want a cussing room, that may be possible. I will ask around to see what others think.

That's not exactly my point. I am being taken literally. I tend to make sarcastic comment sometimes. All I am saying is we got a censor that blocks all swear words and yet mods still kick players out or mute them because mods can see those censored words. So then what exactly is the point of the censor if mods are in the chatrooms and kicks out players for those blocked words then? There is no longer need for the mods to kick or mute players when the censor already blocks those swear words. That alone shows how abusive some power can make a person.

And please, don't feel obliged to do what I ask for just because it's becoming clear now that players here who are non-mods actually respect me and listen to me. I am just a lowly former mod with nothing good to contribute to this game anyways. Just like a couple of mods said here, I make their lives miserable because of what I say. And oh btw, I was also insulted many times by these certain mods in the chatroom and yes, those mods are actually now more important to scott since they're here everyday. And by the way, I don't know how one of those mods actually got the title when all he did before was spam the chatroom all the time with his so called sister. I have never seen any spammer worse than him before. But I guess he's here all the time, so go figure.

[wonderer]

yeah if we did have that other chat room I hope you now I'm going to express my self like I used to. but not the spaming part or the big spam sentence on how I'm going to ... if mods have their power in that room their will be no point in having the extra room. I rather have the computer censor rather then a mod or players like colt to tell me not to do this and do to do that.

[valicious]

We can do 2 chatrooms but the uncensored one should be limited to certain age levels only. I'm sure under 13 kids chat here too so how to implement it I'm not sure.

[wonderer]

yeah I think colt and cloud are under age so block them

[warkilla van java]

Yea I'm thinking of This censor Thingy is a crap. What's the point of censor when you get mute or kick out by mods (Lawrence). I think everybody here swears and heard the words from other ppl. The bad word makes it fun conversation. We can't have a fun conversation if the mods (Lawrence) always act like he never heard and use the word before. He still kicks you out even if nobody is in the chat but me n him.

Also one of the problem here is admin or mods that plays the game. Like Lawence for example, Lawrence still plays the game by and loves to rank up. Like what you guys said, admins can see all the accs players uses. Its not fair that Lawrence could see our other acc and knows who should he play and who he shouldn't play. While other players loses because they didn't know that the new player they thought it was is one of the top players hiding. What I'm trying to say is that once your an admin, you shouldn't play the game anymore because it's not fair.

[berly van java]

war.. Im agree with u buddy...
scott.. maybe u must meeting with ur admin & mods for get solution..
wat player want and wat u (scott) want.. so this game will be great, happy & cool

[LawrenceA]

Ok first off. The point of a censor it to block swears, When players avoid the filter they are subject to being muted, kicked etc. Unfortunately the censor can't prevent one player abusing another. This again should result in moderator action.
Not everyone comes onto wi to hear swear words. I for one experience enough of them in my everyday life that I don't need any more in this R 13 game.

I won't kick someone if it's just Me and them in a room having a discussion either.

As you recall I was #1 a few weeks ago but decided to drop out of the leaderboard because, as you said, admins on the leaderboard is a controversial topic.

I play for fun now and I fail to see any problem with that.

Personally I don't think wi has a large enough userbase to constitute a forced splitting of main. But perhaps rooms could be created with the option of the censor being turned off for the first x amount of minutes (to avoid the uncensored room getting too big and inclusive of those who do not want the filter off, while still allowing small groups of people to use any vocabulary in a private situation.)

[warkilla van java]

Hmm this is like switching the main room and putting the registered room
On top of the room list. It wouldn't work anyway, once the player see more players in the other room they will start coming there and either one of the room is pointless. If they start coming to the uncensored room, more and more players will come and prolly some of them are kids that aren't supposed to see bad words!! So it's useless, I suggest that you might as well take the censor off and just use mods for spamers who spams in the chat continuously. Talking trash is just a part of them game and should be allowed, if players talking smack just let them and don't make mod stop dem cuz it makes the game more fun. It attracts more players.

[Duc Van Java]

when i started playin this game, nov 21 2009 there where 2 servers, It was Europe and US, so Why dont make 2 servers like bfore!!
One server for the evils
and one server for those Who thinks saints..
PS: we all have dark side inside us.!!!

[N@TE]

I for one, agree that the censor may be a little too much at times. Swear words can get your message across better than without them at times. If you know how to adequately utilize the dark side of the English language, then the theme of your literature can be much more subjective to understanding rather than not using them. However, most people in this game (and in the world in general) don't understand how to use swear words in a good way to get their point across. Most people in this game (and in the world) use swear words to initialize arguments, insult, and cause problems. For instance, coming out of a game that you just lost and telling the winner of you match, "F you," is completely unnecessary and is going to have consequences no matter where you are. Honestly, I would like to have the swear filter off more often, but knowing that that freedom will only be abused by someone who doesn't realize the glory and opportunity that they have turns me into a very hesitant state to do so.

What if private rooms didn't have a censor? Private rooms are used only by people who know each other and are closely acquainted. Admins don't enter private rooms anyways unless it is 100% necessary, therefore it would not be disrupting the main chat, but friends could still exchange thoughts in a meaningful way.

By the way, Val, I like how you are very generic and don't pull out specific names. Pointing a finger at someone only makes them more furious about the situation.

[wonderer]

if you do do what Nate is talking about with the privet room them please poste the password so I can enter.

[valicious]

wonderer wrote:

if you do do what Nate is talking about with the privet room them please poste the password so I can enter.

Private rooms should not have any censors in the first place. The key word is "PRIVATE" in case it's not obvious enough. But no, uncensored "private" room is just secondary to uncensored public chatroom with no mods to control it. Mods can enter that room but should have no power to mod the "UNCENSORED" chatroom.

[sam]

Bahahaha this went for kou saying or meaning something to do with the clan leader board to ( having a swear room which I think there's to many little kids on this game but it's a great idea

[scottlu]

valicious wrote:

wonderer wrote:

if you do do what Nate is talking about with the privet room them please poste the password so I can enter.

Private rooms should not have any censors in the first place. The key word is "PRIVATE" in case it's not obvious enough. But no, uncensored "private" room is just secondary to uncensored public chatroom with no mods to control it. Mods can enter that room but should have no power to mod the "UNCENSORED" chatroom.

What is the big draw to swearing? Is it really fun to swear? I'm trying to understand what the valuable thing is if you can swear in front of players who don't want swearing. It definitely isn't the case that all players want to see the swearing of other players.

What if an individual player could issue a command to see swears. Would that meet your desire to see swearing?

As for being muted / kicked for filtered swearing, I will talk to the mods about that. The filter was put in place so that didn't need to happen.

Scott

[wonderer]

it's going to be stupid if we could swear since mods will tell us not to swear at players. so maybe their is no right option cause of the mods. I really don't now anymore about this topic.

[scottlu]

If your swear is filtered for all except those who want to see swears, it could probably work.

The issue is people being able to see swearing when they don't want it. Before the filter it was really out of hand.

[Mithoz]

wasnt there a stage when there wasnt a swear filter going? back then no one really noticed that people swore alot. i think when the filter was put into place was when people started to notice and tried to beat the filter..

[warkilla van java]

scottlu wrote:

If your swear is filtered for all except those who want to see swears, it could probably work.

The issue is people being able to see swearing when they don't want it. Before the filter it was really out of hand.

Actually had this idea for a long time after I got muted so much time from mods (Lawrence). I was thinking of having a code for censors. If you dint want to see the bad words, they got to type a code so it will get censored all the time. But then I thought bout it, I realized that without other player seeing my word cleary it's useless because bad word tells everyone my expression.

[wonderer]

Mithoz wrote:

wasnt there a stage when there wasnt a swear filter going? back then no one really noticed that people swore alot. i think when the filter was put into place was when people started to notice and tried to beat the filter..

no we ALL EVERYONE but scottlu took advantage of it.

[scottlu]

No true wonderer. I had many many PMs complaining about the swearing before there was a filter.

[wonderer]

if you would point them out then maybe we could tell you if they did or didn't curse or spam.

[Colt]

PM stands for "Private Message". You can't ask him to reveal stuff, rather just take his word. What reason would he have to lie? (Hint: none)

[Duc Van Java]

Where going in the wrong way here...
Its not about swearing its about the chat mods Whos taking advantage of thier powers, applying thier rules and not letting players to' have the bit of smile.

[Cloud]

Ok. Let me point something out. You guys say that we chat mods are abusing or taking advantage of our powers. Do you really know what that means? If we were abusing our powers then we would randomly mute people for saying "Hey" at the wrong time or kicking you for sitting in the room to long. That's abuse. What you guys consider abuse really isn't abuse. You people act like you never do anything at all. But face it. You all do things and you get upset when you get punished after several warning. You guys are acting like Elementary School kids. We see you do it, but u try to pretend that you didnt do anything. Get over it. ALL this commotion about censors and mod abuse, half of it is written out of anger and frustration towards the mods. Did you guys ever stop and think that mods and admins don't have anyone to report people to? We suck it up and deal with it. Now I admit that even I curse when I'm upset, but I don't do it often. Everybody makes mistakes and everyone gets upset. If you don't like something then try to talk it out with the person, instead of swearing and being mean to people. If you accidentally, and yes accidentally get muted or kicked, then don't swear at the mods. Just say u kicked or muted me by accident. Then they will apologize and that will be that. Can we just end all this unnecessay arguing and cut all of this nonsense out? I want this game to return to it's former glory and peace that this game had when I first started. No more offensive accounts or unnecessary swearing. Just smooth gaming and people chilling in the chat room chatting. Not swearing, spamming, or bein mean to eachother. When you guys say that you the consumer wants to be satisfied, that includes mods and admins. We also bought the game and we want to be satisfied. So let's all just end these arguments and get along.
LONG LIVE WARFARE INCORPORATED

[Mole van java]

This is just a game! a cool game and app! that's it! nothing more and nothing less. Do we really need a chat mod or an admin? My vote is no on chat mods and maybe on admins, but that's just my opinion.

I think Sub is doing a good job of adding an extra spice to this game, but I don't know what the rest of the mods and admin has contributed other than tell Scott what's going on. I guess Scott needs help in moderating the forum and needs a wall to bounce ideas off of.

Games are for people to have fun and if they want to fight in the chat room or in a game, just let them. I bet at the end of the day they all just laugh about it...Aggressive behavior will come out in any competition and there is always a lot of excuses and whining.

My advice to Scott is not to take the fun away from the community. If most of the community is saying that they don't like the mods/admins, then you might want to consider listening, cause having a mod or an admin probably isn't working. I mean you can tell the difference between your responses (which is more approached as an explanation) and that of a mod's response (which is very defensive).

I am not taking side nor trying to offend anyone. I just wanted to voice out my opinion. I apologize for anyone who got offended.

[Cloud]

One thing I'm noticing is that everyone likes sub cause he's a cool mod. And that all the other mods and admins are useless. Thats biasd and unfair. Saying sub should stay a mod because he's cool isn't fair. It's moreso picking favorites. As for what the others do, we do alot. Alot more the. You think.

[Mole van java]

Cloud wrote:

One thing I'm noticing is that everyone likes sub cause he's a cool mod. And that all the other mods and admins are useless. Thats biasd and unfair. Saying sub should stay a mod because he's cool isn't fair. It's moreso picking favorites. As for what the others do, we do alot. Alot more the. You think.

Nothing bad against you Cloud, but it's not that Sub is cooler than anyone or we are trying to be biased. It's because we (the community) see his contribution to the game. Like what I said, I am not sure what other mods and admin's contribution is, since it's not disclosed to the public and I'm pretty sure that you guys contribute to the game as well (other than being Scottlu's eyes and ears).

It is still up to Scott on what he thinks is best for his game

[N@TE]

Mole van java wrote:

This is just a game! a cool game and app! that's it! nothing more and nothing less. Do we really need a chat mod or an admin? My vote is no on chat mods and maybe on admins, but that's just my opinion.

I think Sub is doing a good job of adding an extra spice to this game, but I don't know what the rest of the mods and admin has contributed other than tell Scott what's going on. I guess Scott needs help in moderating the forum and needs a wall to bounce ideas off of.

Games are for people to have fun and if they want to fight in the chat room or in a game, just let them. I bet at the end of the day they all just laugh about it...Aggressive behavior will come out in any competition and there is always a lot of excuses and whining.

My advice to Scott is not to take the fun away from the community. If most of the community is saying that they don't like the mods/admins, then you might want to consider listening, cause having a mod or an admin probably isn't working. I mean you can tell the difference between your responses (which is more approached as an explanation) and that of a mod's response (which is very defensive).

I am not taking side nor trying to offend anyone. I just wanted to voice out my opinion. I apologize for anyone who got offended.

Apparently you have forgotten the 2010 Leaderboard (which occupied two straight weeks of my time), the ongoing and hard-to-get-votes-for Map of the Month Award, and my and Lawrence's extensive knowledge, understanding, and helpfulness of maps, and daily moderation of the less-skilled maps. Lawrence and I are there every day of the week if you need any help on maps. We also have to have immediate reaction to a bad map, whether it be quarantining, helping the creator, or giving them a stern warning.

However, I'm not saying that Lawrence and I do all of the work. All of the active mods and admins contribute the same amount of time and effort to the game in some way or another. Mods help the admins tremendously. Mods do more of the daily chat room and notification work. Without mods the structure would not be complete, and this game would fail.

The point is that just because you don't see everything that we do, it doesn't mean that things are not being worked on.

[LawrenceA]

We're just here to help . Feel free to talk with or pm any one of us, mods and admins alike.

[berly van java]

hey you're admin & mods (active)...
i hope this game will be more ppl to play, its a job for u guys but when u all come it doesn't work..
so bad... sorry but its true..

[Mole van java]

Thank you nate, law, and cloud for giving us an insight on what a mod and an admin's daily routine and contribution to this game is. The WI community appreciate all your contribution.

I have been playing this game for 18 mos. and when I started there was no mod or admin (with the exception of Scott of course) and the game was actually more fun, and I bet a lot of people here will agree. Also, I don't think this game will not survive with out a mod or the extra admins, and I think that it's a bit arrogant to say that otherwise. This game had survived and attracted new players, because of the true players that are addicted to this game

I know when the "chat mod" came to the topic before, it was more like, "let's try and see if it works". Now all I hear from a lot of people are complaints. Don't get me wrong, I don't really have anything against the mods and some of the mods and admins are my closest friends in this game.

Why don't we try to see what happens if the mods and admins go on vacation for a month ?

[scottlu]

I should speak up here. Before mods and admins, I was doing all these tasks, and other tasks not in Nate's list. I seriously needed help. Without mods helping I couldn't run the service.

Nothing in life is a free lunch. There are tradeoffs for everything. Players are able to play this game, be on the forums, do crazy stuff with ids (you all know what I'm talking about), submit mission packs, get help when you need it.... None of this is free - it takes a lot of work on the admin side to provide this. The admins exist to make this possible. So going back to life without admins really isn't in the cards, because it is not feasible.

As always I want to hear feedback.

[Mithoz]

Thanks for been mods and admins. And giving up your time.



Is that what you guys want to hear?