The neutral anon failure

[galm]

Umm something needs to change, and I say we use nates system of lose three pints or gain three points or what not. I'm sorry to bring this back but besides the fact that they can be annoying, they're useless! At least before it was worth playing them! Now everyone yells at them to leave.

[N@TE]

Okay first off, at least say my name in that post for my idea, because it was my idea. Next, I'm going against my idea. They still get kicked out now, and they got kicked out before. The only difference is that before it was because of the lose, you lose 20 points, win, you get 1 point, and now its just that you get no points. I personally don't mind playing with anons of a FFA or 2v2, as long as there is only one of them. If it was the +3/-3 situation it wouldn't be that bad, but people come in as anons to trick other people. Besides that, if Scott's new policy comes in -which is having one account and being able to have a non-scoring game- there will be a lot less anons, and it will be a great alternative to anonization.

[galm]

Lmfao I typed mate instead of Nate I meant to give u cred.

[N@TE]

galm wrote:

Lmfao I typed mate instead of Nate I meant to give u cred.

Oh okay, I guess I didn't really think of that. So ayways what do you think of Scotts idea?

[scottlu]

I think if we go with 1 account, and let you choose if the game is scored, that it may make sense to eliminate anon login all together.

[N@TE]

scottlu wrote:

I think if we go with 1 account, and let you choose if the game is scored, that it may make sense to eliminate anon login all together.

I don't think that it would eliminate anon log in completely, for there are still the players that don't have IDs, and who really do want to be "anonymous", but it would eliminate a lot of anon log in, at least 80% of it.

[scottlu]

I meant, it may make sense for me to remove the ability to log in anonymously (in the game).

[N@TE]

Some people may be in favor of this, some may not. Doing this would require users to be registered to play, which isn't bad, but is a major change in the game. This would also mean no more regustered room, but there's nobody ever there anyways, so I guess that wouldn't matter. Doing this would have no more hider IDs, which some people who have them would dissagree on this. I am personally in favor of this, but others may not.

This would be the ultimate way to stop future score pumping though. I can't think of any way to get past this if it was put in place. If it is limited to just one ID, then you could still do 2v2, or FFA with 3+ people, and in 2v2 have your friend as the anon help you out, so then you would get all of the points. In FFA, you and your anon friend could tram up and then you get all of the points. I guess you could still gang up on people in FFA, but If this was incorporated, someone would have to resign eventually on their one and only account, because there can only be one winner.

[scottlu]

Exactly... It would eliminate other kinds of score pumping.

I wonder though, if some otherwise anon players may not play, because they don't want to register.

[N@TE]

Maybe anybody who uses the device and IP for their account wouldn't be able to be an anon. This will enable the nonregistered players to still play, and the registered players to not cheat. Registering may not be availble to some people, due to parental contol, and we want as many users on this game as possible, but as few ways to cheat as possible, and I think that may do the trick.

[delta1]

anons are good practice . but it would be nice if they gave points

[scottlu]

If they gave points we'd have score pumping problems.

[WarKilla93]

Just to fix the problem, remove the anon feature and add the feature rank and unranked game.

[galm]

Not if it was plus two minus two, then it would take hours of playing in a row to get anything really rank changing but it eould still contribute a little as a normal player and anons wouldn't be immediatly asked to leave.

[N@TE]

galm wrote:

Not if it was plus two minus two, then it would take hours of playing in a row to get anything really rank changing but it eould still contribute a little as a normal player and anons wouldn't be immediatly asked to leave.

Galm if it was my +2/-2 basis, than you could still cheat. Go to a place like Desert River Riches, wait for 3 min to pass, the anon resignes. You just gained two points. Saying each game is 3 min, and a couple seconds inbetween games, You could earn 10 points in about 16 minutes. Or if you can coordinate well, you could go to a FFA map with yourself and three anons, wait for three minutes to pass, and then have the three anons resign. This would most likely be done in-clan. You could earn 6 points per game this way.

I think that Scotts idea is perfect, and it would sincerallt stop all cheating. Anything else would leave a small gap for cheating, while this would close cheating behind steel doors.

[trineroks]

i like how anons dont give points, but we shud have a kick feature (Brian's idea) and an invite feature, so we can kick anons and invite registered players if someone wants their score to be affected

[wonderer]

Then bring back anons 1500 rank If players will still kick them out then what's the problem. Don't let them join or got to other room. Ya make it so hard. Lol I want to play with anons but can't no points more anons join my maps 3times faster then loged in players. I wouldent mind them going back to normal. Of course I would lose a lot of points but it well be worth it if I diden't have to wait 6min just to get 2 anons to leave and hope the player don't leave as well.

[wonderer]

Ya'll say so much about anons but what about them hidders that keep their ranks low just to bring your down. My wonderland is just waiting for enough players to be logedin so he could come out and play.

[johnjones]

Warkilla is a good player. What's happened before is past, let it go. He got back towards the top fairly with a new ID so give him his due.

[N@TE]

After carefully going through kou's maps, I did not find any cheating triggers wrong with them. The only thing he has done is make co-op maps, and copy others' maps. There were no triggers in any of his maps that suggest cheating or unfairness. Let me be clear on this: I am on neither side of this argument. I am only stating the facts. I hope you two can work out your differences through battle, not talk.

[scottlu]

I've deleted a few posts in this thread related to players fighting or replies to those posts, and kept the rest alone.

Please do not fight / accuse each other in the forums.

Thank you.

[BrianBSHS]

wonderer, when we were actually on the anon discussion and things were being changed around, everyone was hung go for change. Now all of a sudden, because we have change, you want to switch things back; I think you're just trying to be dificult.

[wonderer]

I opened my eyes I don't now what you want me to say? We can only stay on one side of a disscoustion or can I change ?