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Major Miner
Developing Poster
Joined: 22 Dec 2009 Posts: 12
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: Defending against the rush attack |
Any hints?
Try as I might, I just cannot build a base QUITE as fast as the fastest here, on say a map like BiT 1v1. So, if the other guy rushes, I'm screwed.
Any viable defense against this?
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wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told

Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 2221 Location: birth place of, TEXAS
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:59 pm |
Yea their hints try hard to copy them.
counter attack?
Hint fight that person that keeps rushing you. Quit after a few mins to see how many bases he has or tanks may take a few losess but you well find your Answer
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scottlu
WI Founder

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 1773
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:21 pm |
Maybe Brian will reply to this thread with some hints.
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galm
ForeRunner

Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Posts: 2382 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:29 pm |
Lol hint hint Brian? I know he's basic strategy for unlimited money I almost had him when my game crashed, like I said there r building glitches, and getting vtss are key in unlimited money maps, my strategy is to build a power gen four vtss and then another gen, two more vtss then a research, and if done with speed this takes no time at all;)
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WarKilla93
Very Active User
Joined: 11 Jan 2010 Posts: 230 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:02 am |
You mean unlimbit 1v1? Well hint is build faster, sorry if i dont give you chance whenever we play 1v1. I just dont want to come to a point when im about to beat you i get disconnect, thats why whenever i play someone else or you i try to attack asap becuase i never know when i will get disconnected or not.
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ihatepies
Established Forum User
Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 66
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:35 am |
pfft ur too cocky warkilla u cant even beat me n u keep avoiding me. remembr d time i raped ur a55 twice but u quit juz a few seconds bfore 3 mins? y r u avoiding dat topic yet u keep bragging dat u beat wonderer ezily but took u 20 mins lol. poor be0tch lol
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WarKilla93
Very Active User
Joined: 11 Jan 2010 Posts: 230 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:29 am |
Hmm so you want some attention too ah? Ok lets play you faggot.
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valicious
Die-hard Fan

Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 521 Location: Pacland
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:13 pm |
galm wrote: Lol hint hint Brian? I know he's basic strategy for unlimited money I almost had him when my game crashed, like I said there r building glitches, and getting vtss are key in unlimited money maps, my strategy is to build a power gen four vtss and then another gen, two more vtss then a research, and if done with speed this takes no time at all;)
Building glitches? I don't think I've heard about this. How many players know about this? Oh well, I'm sure it's not really something to worry about because if it's true and a lot of players know about it, it must be a minor thing otherwise we'd have different top 25 ever month.
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wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told

Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 2221 Location: birth place of, TEXAS
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:29 pm |
well idont now must not be true lollollol. neverr hurd never lost from a glitch well maybe lagout
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ihatepies
Established Forum User
Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:03 pm |
WarKilla93 wrote: Hmm so you want some attention too ah? Ok lets play you faggot.
lol i juz a55raped warbeotch again coz he dint know im archangel666. war was gunna double team wid kou but i raped dem first hahahaha! now warbeotch wont ever plahy me no more coz he lost to me again hahahahahahahahahahah. wannabe top playah hahahaha! wonder also assraped warbeotch 2x today hahahahaha not so cocky now huh war? wat u sayin bout u bein beter then wonderr? n wat u sayin bout teaching me leson? hahahahahahahahahaha go pump ur rating again tell ur bit clan u lost points to me so dem can give u more points lollololololololol
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WarKilla93
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Joined: 11 Jan 2010 Posts: 230 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:52 pm |
Actaually i know you were ihatepies, u told me that a long time ago on tight budget. You lucky the teamate against you is bad at the map we playing. I wanted to restart the room so ill be side by side to u but i decided not to bcuz u might say i dont want to play with you and im scared.
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ihatepies
Established Forum User
Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:56 pm |
WarKilla93 wrote: Actaually i know you were ihatepies, u told me that a long time ago on tight budget. You lucky the teamate against you is bad at the map we playing. I wanted to restart the room so ill be side by side to u but i decided not to bcuz u might say i dont want to play with you and im scared.
lol u sore lozer. kou always plays dat map nd u guys were gunna double team me nd nate lol too bad for u coz i assraped ur precious kou first lol. den juz lyk before, on our lst game one vs one u freaking quit seconds bfore 3 mins again coz u were losing n u only got 1 tank left lol. wen u play u alwasy pick da map u never joined mine. u dont belong up der u cheating quitter
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wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told

Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 2221 Location: birth place of, TEXAS
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:56 am |
Solution if scottlu won't rest their scores well take his points off the leaderboard lollollol but I'm sure police told him to stop playing us after I beat him they(bit) had a long meeting. Warkilla I'll stop messing with you I though just because you have that many games you would be good but I forgot to take into consideration that most of your matches were agains your clan members.
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galm
ForeRunner

Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Posts: 2382 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:31 pm |
Val Ialready posted what it is. It does increase speed.
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wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told

Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 2221 Location: birth place of, TEXAS
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:52 pm |
Explain cause people don't do it to me so I can't learn I want to learn some little trick of the trades
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frodo
Established Forum User

Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 58 Location: The Shire
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:00 am |
1) explore map - important to see where rush will come from. also see what level of production your opponent is at (how many VTS he have?)
2) match your opponents production - build equal amount of VTS so you can build units just as fast.
3) try to counter-attack away from base - keep the fight away from your buildings to minimize losing them. DO PROTECT HQ.
4) defend the flank - watch for attack from side/behind
5) build defensive units - cyclops + rocket troops
6) adapt to the rush - build the unit that will easily destroy what they rush with.
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slimjimninja
Veteran Member

Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 1226 Location: away
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:27 pm |
Dr. Slimjim's guide to surviving against rush attacks in 100k limits:
1. Make three VTSs and DON'T start making broadswords after you make your three eagle scouts.
2. Make an R&D and research VTS ASAP. While this is happening make a generator and another VTS.
3. Make many hydras and make more VTSs to get more hydras.
4. If you did this all superfast (and you really gotta do it superfast) you will have an adequate defense against a broadsword rush attack.
5. Above all have your three eagle scouts constantly scouting the map!!! It's mega-important that you do this!!!
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Mithoz
Forum Conqueror

Joined: 09 Mar 2010 Posts: 2429 Location: Down under
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:10 am |
Why waste time using scouts when You can do the rush attack
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wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told

Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 2221 Location: birth place of, TEXAS
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:09 am |
slimjimninja wrote: Dr. Slimjim's guide to surviving against rush attacks in 100k limits:
1. Make three VTSs and DON'T start making broadswords after you make your three eagle scouts.
2. Make an R&D and research VTS ASAP. While this is happening make a generator and another VTS.
3. Make many hydras and make more VTSs to get more hydras.
4. If you did this all superfast (and you really gotta do it superfast) you will have an adequate defense against a broadsword rush attack.
5. Above all have your three eagle scouts constantly scouting the map!!! It's mega-important that you do this!!!
building hydras wont stop the broardswords fast attacks
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slimjimninja
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Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 1226 Location: away
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:45 pm |
wonderer wrote: slimjimninja wrote: Dr. Slimjim's guide to surviving against rush attacks in 100k limits:
1. Make three VTSs and DON'T start making broadswords after you make your three eagle scouts.
2. Make an R&D and research VTS ASAP. While this is happening make a generator and another VTS.
3. Make many hydras and make more VTSs to get more hydras.
4. If you did this all superfast (and you really gotta do it superfast) you will have an adequate defense against a broadsword rush attack.
5. Above all have your three eagle scouts constantly scouting the map!!! It's mega-important that you do this!!!
building hydras wont stop the broardswords fast attacks
Trust me if you do it right it works.
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Mithoz
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Joined: 09 Mar 2010 Posts: 2429 Location: Down under
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:01 pm |
slimjimninja wrote: Dr. Slimjim's guide to surviving against rush attacks in 100k limits:
1. Make three VTSs and DON'T start making broadswords after you make your three eagle scouts.
2. Make an R&D and research VTS ASAP. While this is happening make a generator and another VTS.
3. Make many hydras and make more VTSs to get more hydras.
4. If you did this all superfast (and you really gotta do it superfast) you will have an adequate defense against a broadsword rush attack.
5. Above all have your three eagle scouts constantly scouting the map!!! It's mega-important that you do this!!!
im pretty sure your basing your mehtod of 100k limits or something.
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wonderer
Let The Truth Be Told

Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 2221 Location: birth place of, TEXAS
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:35 pm |
Mithoz wrote: slimjimninja wrote: Dr. Slimjim's guide to surviving against rush attacks in 100k limits:
1. Make three VTSs and DON'T start making broadswords after you make your three eagle scouts.
2. Make an R&D and research VTS ASAP. While this is happening make a generator and another VTS.
3. Make many hydras and make more VTSs to get more hydras.
4. If you did this all superfast (and you really gotta do it superfast) you will have an adequate defense against a broadsword rush attack.
5. Above all have your three eagle scouts constantly scouting the map!!! It's mega-important that you do this!!!
im pretty sure your basing your mehtod of 100k limits or something.
and the 3min rule
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slimjimninja
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Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 1226 Location: away
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:33 pm |
Yeah that's why it says "limits" at the top.
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Mithoz
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Joined: 09 Mar 2010 Posts: 2429 Location: Down under
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:53 pm |
Your basing your defended on maps that are fairly large. Playing maps like tight budget, crazy or unlimbit where the teams are based fairly close to each other is hard to defend. Even that arena unlimited FFA map I played last night is rushable
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Dr. Diggles
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Joined: 05 Nov 2009 Posts: 221 Location: Philly, Dallas
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:48 am |
Mithoz wrote: Your basing your defended on maps that are fairly large. Playing maps like tight budget, crazy or unlimbit where the teams are based fairly close to each other is hard to defend. Even that arena unlimited FFA map I played last night is rushable
For these maps you mention, the trick is to rush. if you try to defend, 90% chance you lose against a good player. so just rush.
ya the defense strategies above work for larger maps (100k limits)
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Mithoz
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Joined: 09 Mar 2010 Posts: 2429 Location: Down under
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:32 am |
I remember when I used to be one of the best at crazy, you could defend rush attacks easily cos you had 4 hq, you can build fast and still pwn by upgrading. That map you could rush faster by upgrading than not.. Lol.
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Dr. Diggles
Very Active User

Joined: 05 Nov 2009 Posts: 221 Location: Philly, Dallas
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:34 am |
Oh ya.. always upgrade crazy, then nom nom nom 
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galm
ForeRunner

Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Posts: 2382 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:34 pm |
Defense is one of the best strategies on unlimbit! Get to limit reached and make as wide an arc as possible so there is no way they can flank u, then in the time before try attack u can make your buildings in a nice position.
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Mithoz
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Joined: 09 Mar 2010 Posts: 2429 Location: Down under
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:57 am |
the main stragergy for unlimbit is to build as high up as possible. get the advantage of the high ground luls
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Skyrimgamer21
WI Forum Novice
Joined: 24 Feb 2012 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Defending against the rush attack |
That happens with me too and i get pizzed and quit the game. I can never practice to get better against online opponents because they keep doing that. Im glad i found someone who has the same problem. Idk how to help but if u get some tips then tell them to me please.
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