Price...

[DBZ-GOKU-]

Lots of people are complaining about the price. If I didn't help test, I would have bought this in a heartbeat.

[XboxJunkie101]

Look if your worrying about the price you must want to buy it OR you wouldn’t be wasting your time looking/complaining about it.
right

This is an one of a kind game for the palm You wont find any other like it for the palm

So stop sitting at the forms complaining and go make some $ to buy it, because your complaining isn’t going to make Handmark lower the price.

[DBZ-GOKU-]

First of all, I'm not the one complaining (just telling you what others are saying, and they are stupid about saying it too...;)). Second of all, I already have the game.

[XboxJunkie101]

I wasnt saying you were the one conplaining i was just adding on to what you said.


I agree 100%

[dtrotzjr]

I think the price is fine, this game does more than any other Palm based game ever did. I did save nearly $5 by signing up for geekzone http://www.geekzone.co.nz/ I do think, however, that any expansions should not be priced as much, maybe $10 for an expansion to this game would be reasonable.

[plasticparadox]

[quote="dtrotzjr"]I think the price is fine, this game does more than any other Palm based game ever did. I did save nearly $5 by signing up for geekzone http://www.geekzone.co.nz/ I do think, however, that any expansions should not be priced as much, maybe $10 for an expansion to this game would be reasonable.[/quote]

Thanks for the link! I just bought Warfare with the discount. I wouldn't have paid full price for it.

[XboxJunkie101]

[quote="plasticparadox"][quote="dtrotzjr"]I think the price is fine, this game does more than any other Palm based game ever did. I did save nearly $5 by signing up for geekzone http://www.geekzone.co.nz/ I do think, however, that any expansions should not be priced as much, maybe $10 for an expansion to this game would be reasonable.[/quote]

Thanks for the link! I just bought Warfare with the discount. I wouldn't have paid full price for it.

[/quote]


You wouldnt pay $5 more for the game,
that is CHEAP,

But,

Now that you bought it whould you of
bought it for the full $30?

[XboxJunkie101]

[quote="XboxJunkie101"][quote="plasticparadox"][quote="dtrotzjr"]I think the price is fine, this game does more than any other Palm based game ever did. I did save nearly $5 by signing up for geekzone http://www.geekzone.co.nz/ I do think, however, that any expansions should not be priced as much, maybe $10 for an expansion to this game would be reasonable.[/quote]

Thanks for the link! I just bought Warfare with the discount. I wouldn't have paid full price for it.

[/quote]


You wouldnt pay $5 more for the game,
that is CHEAP,

But,

Now that you bought it whould you of
bought it for the full $30?

[/quote]



I ask this becouse I whanted to make people that havent bought it see that it is worth the money...

after reading over what i said i thought i should make clear my intentions from the comment.

[plasticparadox]

[quote="XboxJunkie101"]

You wouldnt pay $5 more for the game,
that is CHEAP,

But,

Now that you bought it whould you of
bought it for the full $30?

[/quote]

Don't presume to tell me that I'm cheap, you little prick. This is a Palm game. Not a PC game, not a console game. I've never seen a Palm game this expensive.

No, I would not pay full price for this game. It is not worth $30. Console games are worth $30. Not Palm games.

Just because you appear to be a forum fanboy doesn't give you the right to put me down for not wanting to sell my first-born to get a copy of this game.

[XboxJunkie101]

Sorry if I offended you,
I didn’t mean no harm from my comment as you can see
From my second quote that you left off.
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“I ask this becouse I whanted to make people that havent bought it see that it is worth the money...

after reading over what i said i thought i should make clear my intentions from the comment.”
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I gust wanted to know if you thought if it was worth the money?

Also I wasn’t calling You Cheep I was calling The game Cheep,
Because by its standards, it is in my thought,
This is just like a console game that a person would pay $50 for.

I am deeply sorry if I offended you in any form and should have worded it better…

[magican]

To add my view on that:

It´s worth every single cent!

It´s true - it´s not a PC game, but does that mean it should be cheaper? I cannot follow the logic - i guess it would have been much easier to make it running on a PC, where more ressources than on the palm are available (still less than on my Mac ).

Great graphics, cool sound (music will come - i guess, bluetooth in the pipe.. ) - i can play it everywhere (unlike PC games..).

Great stuff - every single cent spent with a smile

[DBZ-GOKU-]

No need to get pissed off there...

The game is cheap, and if you don't think so, then don't get it and leave. Just because it is not a PC game or a console gmae does not mean it is worth the money. Games are starting to get a lot better now, and pretty soon, all Palm games will have this quality and all of the prices will start going up. The more time spent making a game (especially of this quality), the more the palm game is going to cost. I can guarentee that you will not find a game better than this anywhere in the Palm world (at least an RTS game, an awesome RPG coming out by www.constantgames.com called Edge).

Oh, yeah. Console games are $50, not 30. You may think they are worth $30, and that may be becasue you don't have any or something, but all games that are released now days eitehr for PC or consoles are $50, and are definatly worth it, just like this game it.

[plasticparadox]

[quote="magican"]<snip>It´s true - it´s not a PC game, but does that mean it should be cheaper? I cannot follow the logic</snip>[/quote]

The logic is that console games & PC games are more expensive to develop, and usually more immersive, time consuming, and exciting than Palm games.

Yes, it should be cheaper. Like I said, I wouldn't have paid for this game if I didn't get a discount.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not invalidating the value of this game in any way. It's a great game, and I'm glad that I own it. I'm fairly confident that this is the best action game available for the Palm.

But let's look at some other games available for Palm, and it's pricing.

[b]Insaniquarium.[/b] I bought this one for 14.95. Half the price of WI. If you've played it, you'll understand why this is a great value.

[b]Bejeweled.[/b] Although I don't like puzzle games, this one is very popular, and also only 14.95.

[b]Tetris Classic.[/b] 14.99 by Handmark. Possibly the most popular puzzle game of all time.

PC games and console games, on the other hand, are all pretty much priced the same when they come out. I hope that this $30 price point won't be a popular theme in the Palm game industry.

Otherwise, I might consider a Gameboy Advance.

[DBZ-GOKU-]

Well, you also have to consider that this took just as much time, or more than any PC game to make. It took them about 2.5 years to finish the game, and they stilll don't have it completly updated (such as multiplayer, skirmish mode, and other features). This also probably cost them just as much. You need to look at it from all point of views and get all of the information.

[plasticparadox]

[quote="DBZ-GOKU-"]No need to get pissed off there...

The game is cheap, and if you don't think so, then don't get it and leave.

I own the game.

Just because it is not a PC game or a console gmae does not mean it is worth the money.

Yes it does. Good PC games and console games cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to create.

Games are starting to get a lot better now, and pretty soon, all Palm games will have this quality and all of the prices will start going up.

I doubt it. The Palm has been around for about 10 years, and this is the first quality game that I've found. There's not many good game studios developing for Palm.

The more time spent making a game (especially of this quality), the more the palm game is going to cost. I can guarentee that you will not find a game better than this anywhere in the Palm world (at least an RTS game, an awesome RPG coming out by www.constantgames.com called Edge).

Agreed, and I'll check out Edge.

Oh, yeah. Console games are $50, not 30.

I live in Japan. They cost 30 here.

You may think they are worth $30, and that may be becasue you don't have any or something,

No need to be mature

but all games that are released now days eitehr for PC or consoles are $50, and are definatly worth it,

Not all games. Look at Daikatana.

just like this game it.[/quote]

[plasticparadox]

[quote="DBZ-GOKU-"]at least an RTS game, an awesome RPG coming out by www.constantgames.com called Edge).
[/quote]

OS5 only

[DBZ-GOKU-]

[quote="plasticparadox"]Not all games. Look at Daikatana.[/quote]

Well, I have not heard of that game, and I bet most people haven't either. The most popular and well known games are form Atari, Activision, Eidos, EA, Ubisoft, etc. (all of those big name companies), and all the games from them cost $50 (except for GBA games, which cost $30, and this game, Warfare, is better than most GBA games, especially graphics and sound wise).

[DBZ-GOKU-]

[quote="plasticparadox"][quote="DBZ-GOKU-"]at least an RTS game, an awesome RPG coming out by www.constantgames.com called Edge).
[/quote]

OS5 only [/quote]

That could be a problem with an m505...also, you would probably appreciate Warfare more if you played it on an OS5 device too, you should consider getting one, such as teh Zodiac, which is really cheap for its quality.

[plasticparadox]

[quote="DBZ-GOKU-"][quote="plasticparadox"]Not all games. Look at Daikatana.[/quote]

Well, I have not heard of that game, and I bet most people haven't either. The most popular and well known games are form Atari, Activision, Eidos, EA, Ubisoft, etc. (all of those big name companies), and all the games from them cost $50 (except for GBA games, which cost $30, and this game, Warfare, is better than most GBA games, especially graphics and sound wise).[/quote]

You've never heard of Daikatana? John Romero's pet project? Possibly the most anticipated game of all time? It was actually developed by Eidos, which you listed above.

http://www.eidosinteractive.com/games/info.html?gmid=11

Edit: Sorry, developed by Ion Storm, distributed by Eidos.

[plasticparadox]

[quote="DBZ-GOKU-"][quote="plasticparadox"][quote="DBZ-GOKU-"]at least an RTS game, an awesome RPG coming out by www.constantgames.com called Edge).
[/quote]

OS5 only [/quote]

That could be a problem with an m505...also, you would probably appreciate Warfare more if you played it on an OS5 device too, you should consider getting one, such as teh Zodiac, which is really cheap for its quality.[/quote]

Ehh.... I dunno... My m505 is a great little PDA. Also, I'm afraid that if I go PDA shopping, I might end up with a PocketPC...

[helf]

My god people.. Stop flaming. And don't give me any "We are expressing our opinions BS"

The game isn't to expensive. People complaining about it are jsut to cheap to pay the price.

[plasticparadox]

[quote="helf"]My god people.. Stop flaming. And don't give me any "We are expressing our opinions BS"

The game isn't to expensive. People complaining about it are jsut to cheap to pay the price.[/quote]

You're the only one flaming, actually. Get bent.

[helf]

My posts always backfire on me

[Quintessence]

This game is worth every penny of $30, and more. I was more than happy to plunk down my cash for it. It's going to give me more gaming satisfaction than many PC/console titles I've been foolish enough to pay more for.

How much time do you think this game will provide you entertainment? My guess is that I'll be playing this for many hours to come (especially once skirmish mode hits). I shudder to think at how much of my life has been blown playing C&C. The way I see it, any time you're getting more hours of entertainment out of something than it took to work to pay for it, you're in the good.

This game is truly unique. I'd been looking for a good Palm game for a few months before I found this (and did not expect to find anything of this caliber!). Comparing it to Bejeweled or Tetris really isn't fair--they're just puzzle games who can't hold a candle to this action.

Nothing in life's free, and the good stuff will cost you more. The folks who made this game realized there was a huge untapped market wanting exactly this, and took the pains to provide it. I only hope my 30 bucks is buying someone a steak dinner for a job well done.

Daikitana.....

[plasticparadox]

:sigh:

Quintessence, you've made some really good points.. even I know when my argument turns to crap.

I suppose it is worth $30, if you look at the fact that almost every other game on Palm is a boring puzzle game.

Either way, I'm glad I own it.

[Quintessence]

PP: Thank you!

I wasn't trying to shred your 'argument', just expressing my views on the subject. (I try not to 'fluff' post, only when I think I have something to say worth reading.)

Ultimately, being satisfied with the purchase is the objective. I'm glad it's turned out to be worthwhile for you. (Certainly has for me! )

Strictly by the numbers, I worked @3 hrs to pay for this game. I've already got at least 3 times that myself out of it this week alone, not counting what everyone else has just checking it out. It's been a tough week for the Clie, battery draining to nothing on a daily basis. "Runs for weeks on 1 charge" says Sony. Whatever.

[rjpatrick2]

I was hesitant myself about getting the game. same reason - $30 is a bit high for a palm game, here's a little logic for ya'. the 'craft games (starcraft-warcraft) are what all of us here are after for our palms. 10 times the programing went into those games, and true, they can be bought for $30. they also sell close to a million copies, so they can afford to sell them so cheap. these guys probably won't sell that many copies because of the smaller customer base. they have to charge more per manhour to make thier profit. comparitively, starcraft would have to sell for $300 dollars if it were sold at the same volume as this program. I use engineering programs that cost more than a new car (a Kia) because of they small customer base. you are also paying for the cutting edge of palm programing - you get what you pay for.

[DBZ-GOKU-]

[quote="rjpatrick2"]...you get what you pay for.[/quote]

That is my modo(?), I will never buy anything cheap, especially if you know all of the other competitors are selling it for expensive, then you just know it is crap. If I have to save longer, oh well, because it will just last longer.

[nerys]

I am in the middle on this. I think $30 is VERY expensive for this game.

Graphics etc.. mean nothing if the game does not PLEASE ME. if the game does not give me lots of usage etc..

right now it does not do that at all.

do not get me wrong. the graphics are wonderful etc.. but how long will I enjoy it ? I have put about 3 hours into the game so far on and off and am half way through it.

I figure at this rate I have MAYBE a month before I beat it and it becomes road kill. IE never played again.

I have a problem playing the same thing over and over again. it bores me.

So why did I pay SO MUCH for such a VERY limited game.

First sadly its the only game in town. (ONLY decent RTS and may be the ONLY rts for palm)

also just got a new zodiac so its something I can do on the zodiac.

etc.. etc..

the biggest reason. I am gambling that the authors will pay up so to speak with updates missions and UBER importantly skirmish modes.

this would make it well worth $30.

I have paid over $100 for a game (MANY copies of Red Alert 2 with yuri upgrade) and still think its a bargain and then again I have paid $20 for a game and felt ripped off.

Example. I just got an RC helicopter game for my PS1. AWESOME GAME.

I think I got RIPPED at $15. their is absolutely ZERO replayability. I did all their was to do in 3 hours and thats it.

$30 is for the average person 3 HOURS Of their LIFE. 3 HOURS of their blood and sweat.

that is NOT an insignificant thing. you can call peopel cheap all you want.

WHen YOU are working MY hours and GIVING me the paycheck for yoru work then you can call me cheap. I work very hard for the little bit of money that I have.

$30 is a BIG invenstment for a game (I am very much not a gamer so its even bigger for me)

I DO NOT buy most new games because I simply can not justify $40 to $50 for a game.

Same with my Game Boy SP. I simply can not see paying $30 for a game etc..

their are exceptions. Advance Wars rocks. (IT HAS SKIRMISH !!!)

Red Alert. paid $80 for that game initially. $55 for the "special edition version with DVD and Figuring) and $20 for the "yuri upgrade"

add tax etc.. and its $80

I STILL PLAY THAT GAME TODAY. it has nearly limiteless playability.

its hard to find good online play anymore with people interested only in tank rushing for ladder points. (Dark Reign was an awesome C&C style game that made tank rushing VERY hard) I loved that game.

I still play it as well.

Unless you have a PC version that is interoperable the palm version multiplayer is all but useless right now. I could be wrong. maybe their are more localized palm users than I am aware of.

Skirmish mode is far more important. I paid the IMO huge fee of $30 for this game for 1 reason. I want to support the authors in the hopes that they will come through with updates skirmish modes new versions etc.. etc.. its a gamble but I think a good one.

AS IS. if I were to assume nothing else ever was coming this game most definately is NOT worth $30

$15 maybe. thats my opinion. it is my right because it MY money. I work hard for it.

I am confident they will update it though so I was willing to shell out $30.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

[nerys]

Also I sale shop. I got Rise of Nations (quite a nice game actually) for $30 the same month (maybe withing 14 days) of release.

Compusa had it onsale for one day.

I have only paid full price IE over $40 for 2 games. Red Alert 2 and Unreal Tournamet 2003.

$45 and $50 is just in general too much money for a game to me.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

[cowboyshootist]

Personally I don't think $30 is too much to ask for a quality game. Especially when the developers add features such as MP at no additional cost.

I too look for sales and was able to get Warfare at half price. CompUSA had a $30 rebate on the purchase of 2 Handmark titles. So Warfare for me and Monopoly for the wife for $30. Not a bad deal at all.

[nerys]

As I said. $30 as is? NOT a good deal. $30 with updates should be a very good deal. $30 is close to my comfort zone limit for games. most palm games are NOT worth $30 to me. Not even close. but this game so far has the potential to FAR exceed what I see as normal "palm" games.

that's why I forked over the $30 for it.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/