New World Campaign COMPLETE

[UGMC]

This is the same thing as EM1 Startup Costs, but the new topic name is the actual name of the campaign.

All nine levels of my new campaign. Andy has broken away and started his own company on a new planet called YPK-634 inhabited by friendly and enemy aliens, along with savage pirates. How will he cope in a world of his own?

Missions 6, 7, and 9 are bet versions. I have yet to fix the fact that 7 and 9 crashes, as well. Keep looking for updates!

History:
edited once (error in early level)
edited twice (compiled into campaign)
edited 3rd time (added level 4)
edited 4th time (added level 5)
edited 5th time 6-19-04 (added level 6 and 7 beta versions)
edited 6th time 6-23-04 (added level 8 )
edited 7th time 6-26-04 (added level 9)
edited 8th time 6-2-04 (modified levels 1-4)

[UGMC]

gr... still froze up

[UGMC]

I hate to fill in all my responses myself, but I have nearly completed level two of my campagin. Hopefully, I'll post it tomorrow. But, uh, just a question. Do I post this second level in a reply like this, create a whole new topic, or create a campagin download where both are downloaded at once?

I don't know how to do that last one, however. Someone teach it to me or something, please.

[UGMC]

note that that this link does not work anymore, because I don't know how to delete replies.

[UGMC]

I'm getting rid of this link to keep this forum from getting cluttered up. For level two, just download them all at the "new world" download.

[dws90]

You should release each level in a seperate post (or in one PRC) for the benefit of people downloading from the Warfare website. Also, you can edit posts to update the version.

Just a tip.

[UGMC]

I don't know how to edit them, but I would if I knew how.

[dws90]

*Points to edit button on the top right corner of the message box, next to "Quote"

[UGMC]

Thanks. I don't learn much very fast.

[UGMC]

Again, I am removing this download. You should know where to get it, at the top, with the other levels.

[PhillipEarl]

First, open all the levels in your campaign in "M" at the same time. Simply compiling one of them will compile them all into the same file.

If you want the levels to play progressively, with the next level in order loading after the previous is won, you'll need to add a "load mission" action to your end mission/win trigger.

When you add that action, you'll be prompted to input a mission name. Input the TITLE of the desired mission (NOT the .pdb's file name)! You can see each mission's title by selecting the Level Properties. Input the same title that you see there in the "load mission" trigger, and you're set.

[UGMC]

How is this campaign so far? Which levels are good, and which are bad? no one's really commented on it.

[dws90]

Alright, I have played your first mission and although it seems to not be a real mission, I have some feedback that will help every mission.

1. Center the view over the original starting area at mission load. This can be done either using a trigger, or via the "Initial View" setting.
2. Having the name of the unit the player controlled for the mission being ANDY without having it be the actual Andy was very confusing. Change it to an eagle or something.

I liked the way you used Ecoms, and I'll play the remianing missions a bit latter.

[UGMC]

I debated the Andy stuff too... I was thinking about saying that it was Unit one in an Armored Neo-Defense sYstem, but that doesn't really work now, does it? Can you think of another name that's relevant?

Maybe I'll replace him or get rid of him in later versions, but as for right now, I'd rather work on getting new missions made. Once the campaign is finished, I'll go back and make everything v2.0 with lots of upgrades, like setting the next mission and things like that.

[dws90]

I've played mission two (I'm going to do this one at a time just to confuse people). Unique mission, but a few things.

-The Survalliance Center capture thingy is completely pointless, as far as I can tell. There isn't enough time to get anywhere without having your team gunned down by rocket towers as soon as red is hostile.

-I liked the capture building = special feature gizmo. Its a tactic used rarely.

-Don't give the tip about tricking the army at the top into the map. Let the player figure that out for themselves.

-I suggest you work on the triggers so that the army moves back and forth from the base to the hill. Once they leave, you can destroy the towers and leave. The army should realize they've been tricked and move back to their original spot, maybe after a bit of a delay.

-Difficulty is way too easy. I was able to finish without a single friendly casualty rather effortlessly. Make the unit groups bigger or something.

Overall, good mission.

Stay tuned for three!

[UGMC]

Difficulty is always an issue for me... I tend to go too easy, not too hard. About the surveillence center thing, I thing I'll up the time some so at least you can get past the first two bases. I've been thinking of getting rid of Andy, too... he makes things too easy and confusing for the storyline. The army movement thing, I'll work on too. This was actually one of the hardest levels to make because it took so many triggers.

Once I finish the campaign, I'll make v 2.0's for everything. Look for those changes then.

[Bodisia]

So far your series of missions is top notch!! However mission 7 freezes my palm at mission load , and mission 6 is relentless and could possibly be eased up a bit. It's way too hard , for me anyway.

Keep up the good work!!

[UGMC]

Yeah, I just played those two levels last night myself. Broadswords come in far too early in mission six, and the level crashes on me too at an ecom in the seventh level. I'll get around to changing that sometime.

[Bodisia]

[color=red]I finally managed to beat level 6!!! That was tough!! You must move fast and sell almost all available buildings, only keeping HQ, Galaxite Processor, R&D & VTS. With a little luck you will be able to build an army that can toe to toe with all of the attacks that you will recieve. Once you are established you must make some corporate raiders and head south, taking over the entire base to the south. The level never actually ended, but everything was destroyed and i had my army at the max. The red team contined to spawn over and over from the location found in the SW corner. Great level, very challenging!!! My suggestion would be to not start the level with any bullops, instead just slow down the speed at which the enemy's attack from either side. That way people will have a chance to get somewhat established before the gong show begins......

[Bodisia]

I finally managed to beat level 6!!! That was tough!! You must move fast and sell almost all available buildings, only keeping HQ, Galaxite Processor, R&D & VTS. With a little luck you will be able to build an army that can toe to toe with all of the attacks that you will recieve. Once you are established you must make some corporate raiders and head south, taking over the entire base to the south. The level never actually ended, but everything was destroyed and i had my army at the max. The red team contined to spawn over and over from the location found in the SW corner. Great level, very challenging!!! My suggestion would be to not start the level with any bullops, instead just slow down the speed at which the enemy's attack from either side. That way people will have a chance to get somewhat established before the gong show begins......

[UGMC]

I'm getting a sense of deja vu here...

Don't worry. I've accidentally repeated a reply before too.

[UGMC]

Oh. For level six, did you wait a full hour? That's one of the victory conditions. The other, I think, is actually to kill every red unit at one time, not just the buildings. I decided that all buildings were incredibly vulnerable, and too easy later on, and I must have forgotten to change the text talking about that.

One last thing. Did the Qush pirates thing work? DId it even trigger?

[Bodisia]

The pirates trigger never worked, i had units on both pressure pads and they just kept commin'. Same goes for the red team, i destroyed every single building (except my own) and they also kept comming. Here is an interesting note for ya, the pirates come in a group and spawn non stop when that group is destroyed. However, there is a HRC on the far east side that, if destroyed will cause the pirates to spawn twice as fast from both sensor pads. If you just leave that building alone then you only have to deal with one group of Omni and one group of pirates at a time. I did not wait an hour, like i said the mission never really ended but i had full control of the land, until i ran out of money

Cheers!!

[UGMC]

Hmmm... very weird. I'm new with most of the triggers I used in 6 and 7, and don't understand them very well. The pirates spawning twice as fast... I have absolutely no idea!

[Bodisia]

Hey UGMC, why don't you drop me an email so we can put our heads together and exchange mission ideas. you can reach me at bodisia69@hotmail.com. Look forward to hearing from ya...

[Tooks]

UGMC,
I have played and beaten missions 1 through 5...
but mission 6 is either too hard or impossible!
Interesting concept, yet i find it too difficult, as you can hold on until the galaxite in the area ends, but then u have nowhere to go..
A bug: once i am dead, their is no trigger to say i failed... it just keeps going on.

good set of missions overall

[BSlickOH]

I was playing with mission 6 today, and decided that it wasn't winnable. I have been enjoying the mission pack so far, although it doesn't automatically trigger the next mission upon successful completion.

It took me a little while to figure out, but I can get established without too much difficulty, and one time even set up a second base in the north for mining ease. Discovered the pad before I got the ecom telling me what it was for. So, I set a unit on it, and went on about my business. Next thing I know, I'm getting the messages about the pirates, and my northern base is instantly being destroyed. Seems I had built on the spawn zone, so they just appeared and went nuts. So I tried again, setting up the northern base in a different place. Same effect. They must be spawning right on top of the pad. The vehicle that I placed there is toast almost instantly, and you just can't build vehicles fast enough to combat them. I haven't tried towers yet, but that would ultimately be a futile exercise in time vs. money, I think.

One bug is that you don't seem to have a failed mission trigger. They completely destroyed me, but the game kept going. I decided to let it play out as long as it wanted to. I watched wave after wave of pirates eventually destroy every red building I could see, and even some I couldn't. Then the pirate waves would always gravitate over to where the red vehicles were constantly spawning. The pirates could handle about two waves of red guys before being destroyed, and then a new wave would come down and try again. So, the game basically stalemated. I did, however, get ecoms at 1 hour, and the objectives indicated that I was successful. But the game still didn't end.

Oh, I seem to recall seeing an ecom saying something to the effect of the pirates wouldn't be coming anymore, but they still did. This might have been at the 1-hr mark.

I personally don't like the "enemies spawn forever" concepts that appear in these 3rd-party missions. At some point, the spawning needs to stop. I have resource limitations, so should the enemy. Particularly pirates. Set 'em up with huge budgets and 400 construction buildings, but their resources should still be finite.

Heh, my posts always sound so negative. I really do enjoy these missions. Good work! I'm looking forward to the remainder of the storyline.

[UGMC]

Yeah, I've heard of a lot of bugs in missions 6. I used a lot of new triggers in that level, so it may take me a while to sort everything out. As I said, mission 6 is still beta. I'll check it out once I release my last level (hopefully today or tomorrow.)

[BSlickOH]

I just tried mission 7, and I'm getting a total freeze shortly into the mission. It has occured twice in row immediately following the message that tells me I won't be able to make anymore Dominions. Had to do a hard reset of my Clie both times.

[UGMC]

Yeah. Mission 7 freezes up on my HP Ipaq 2215, along with the mission nine I am about to release. I don't know what triggers it; maybe it's just all the sides doing stuff at once. I think I'll ask a question about that in the mission authoring forums.

[Tooks]

I have completed all the other missions, but mission 7 freezes my palm after the first ecom saying i cannot build any more headquarters.
Mission 6 was IMPOSSIBLE... wow, i think im bad at this...

i havent yet tried the next two missions.

[UGMC]

Hm, mission 7 hates everyone!

I was informed that someone actually did beat mission 6, but I'm going to make it easier anyway.

By the way, mission 9 may also freeze your game up as well. It froze up my Pocket PC.

On a lighter note, how do you like the campaign so far?

[Bodisia]

Mission 9 also freezes at mission load.

[Verdagon]

UGMC wrote:

On a lighter note, how do you like the campaign so far?

Awesome campaign, UGMC. I love the storyline and the gameplay, but maybe you should piece the levels together into a chain so we wouldn't have to select them manually...

[UGMC]

Yep, that's what I plan to do once I get a few bugs fixed out of levels 7 and 9.

[Donw35]

Mission 9 freezes on me as well...

[UGMC]

I just got some information on why levels 7 and 9 freeze up that has to do with limits and such. I'll let everyone know when I get an update for these levels.

I also modified the first four levels of my campaign to make the better, but I havn't posted the changes yet.

[UGMC]

Okay, the first four levels have been modified! Let me know how they are now.

[dws90]

During level 8, Andy always seems to die whenever I get the "nearing Osoto base" ECOMM, then I fail.

As for the freezing on levels 7 and 9, I think it is because there are two many units made for the device to handle.

[UGMC]

So, do you think slimming down on the units will help? I'll try that, but I don't think that's it.

[PhillipEarl]

UGMC wrote:

So, do you think slimming down on the units will help? I'll try that, but I don't think that's it.

I froze up a level the other day that I was working on. The problem there was that I had a trigger that ordered the creation of unit groups that didn't exist any more. I had deleted the unit groups and forgotten to change the trigger!

Maybe you've got the same problem?

[UGMC]

Good idea; I'll check that out sometime.

[UGMC]

Good news! Crakerz has told me some things that may be freezing up levels 7 and 9. As soon as possible, I'll change them so they can be played!

[xath]

The fixed levels 7 and 9 don't overwrite the original, they just make another copy of them, which is confusing. Is there any way to fix this?

[UGMC]

I let them alone deliberately, because they are beta bugfixes. No use changing the campaign yet.

[UGMC]

All right, today I'm going to rewrite level 7 COMPLETELY!!! I realize my "bug-free" level STILL freezes up!!! I don't want to have to rewrite 9, though, so SPIFFCODE, PLEASE HELP!!!

[UGMC]

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!! I completely remade level 7, from scratch, and guess what? It freezes up when I test it. That was a waste of an hour. I'm getting frusterated here, I need professional help.

[UGMC]

Hey! You actually can play the levels that freeze up! Check out my post in the mission authoring section about Level Freezings Remedy!!!

[HawkMan98]

I've tried everything I can think of to try to beat this mission, but have been unsuccessfull. Can you give me a hint? I run out of money and troops and watch my base get destroyed every time. I've even tried a money cheat, but I still can't keep ahead of the reds and teals. If you want to know how to do the money cheat, let me know and I'll tell you how to do it. I know that there is at least one of those replicator pressure points in the map (northwest corner),. Is that siginificant?

[UGMC]

Uh... which level? Level 6? No one has beaten that, I believe. I stopped making updates for my campaign a long time ago when I stopped playing Warfare. I might get back to it if Spiffcode were to actually try and fix the levels I sent them that always freeze up. So far, they haven't responded for over a month.

[fordse]

...but I agree with BSlickOH and others whose comments are similar. I love the concept and the mission pack overall, but level 6 is unreasonably difficult. I personally don't like the campaigns where I am bound by resource limitations but my enemies are not, and just keep spawning and spawning, especially when they are spawning immediately after the current wave is destroyed.

Other than this, excellent idea and really fun overall!

[whimsicalchris]

Super stuff, suffering on level 6 mind

Got any more missions in the pipeline ?

[addicted to wi]

Any chance you will be making a sequel to this campaign?
It was awesome, but several levels seem to freeze up when loaded (e.g. level 7)

[dlamet]

Pretty good series.

EM1: Nothing going on. Perhaps add a challenge here.
EM2: Good level
EM3: Again, not too much challenge.
EM4: Good, creative design. Fun level
EM5: Good level.
EM6: Great level. This one was fairly tough. I did manage to get guys on the pads & keep them for a few cycles, but neither the OMNI nor Pirates ever stopped replicating. What's the exit criteria?
EM7: Good level.
EM8: Decent story, but too easy, other sides neutralize each other
EM9: Good level, but make it much harder